Doctors Asking Parents about gun ownership

[BigBlue]

And no matter who is right about the semantics of what is actually happening, it cannot be denied that willingly giving out info about gun possession has a high chance of coming back to bite you in the future. There is absolutely zero reason to provide the info (no possible way for it to help you) and many reasons why it would be bad for you to do so, so I will never give it out.

BB

[Hmac]

And no matter who is right about the semantics of what is actually happening, it cannot be denied that willingly giving out info about gun possession has a high chance of coming back to bite you in the future. There is absolutely zero reason to provide the info (no possible way for it to help you) and many reasons why it would be bad for you to do so, so I will never give it out.

BB

I agree. I strongly advise against giving out that information.

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[Hmac]

. I may not be in-depth knowledgeable about how doctor visits work ...

That ought to just about conclude the conversation, then.

[BigBlue]

. I may not be in-depth knowledgeable about how doctor visits work ...

That ought to just about conclude the conversation, then.

OK, smart-ass.

[Bearcatrp]

The VA was doing this crap a while back. Didn't see it here but someone posted a copy of a questionaire they were required to fill out before the doctor visit. Somewhere on the east coast. Will have to go find it and post it here. No way in hell would I disclose that info.

[20mm]

United Healthcare opened another 190,000 square foot datacenter in Chaska. The building alone without computers is over 100+million dollars.

They're recording as much information about you as they can get. It wouldn't be outlandish to presume they're also working on building a DNA records database on everyone.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/02/04/ba ... overnment/

[hornswaggle]

And no matter who is right about the semantics of what is actually happening, it cannot be denied that willingly giving out info about gun possession has a high chance of coming back to bite you in the future. There is absolutely zero reason to provide the info (no possible way for it to help you) and many reasons why it would be bad for you to do so, so I will never give it out.

BB

I agree, there is no way that answering this question will help you or make their job easier to provide health care. Unfortunately, I would guess that if the question is asked during an emergency or stressful time, ie: a child is hurt or very sick and the parent just wants to answer the questions so their child can get the help they need, that they don't think clearly enough to refuse to answer.

[Ironbear]

Doctors don't "report" anything in routine patient care. The only place that doctors have to put patient information is in the medical record...that's where all the information goes. They use it to deliver patient care. The extent to which other groups or entities have access to it or how they use it is beyond the doctor's control.

So are you saying that the mandatory reporting requirements for health care workers don't really exist (for example, suspected child abuse)? Or are you just saying that because it isn't the doctor who picks up the phone or sends the email, that 'doctor's don't "report" anything'?

Because there are things that come up "in routine patient care", that if the doctor doesn't report (either directly or indirectly) puts them in legal jeopardy.

[Hmac]

Doctors don't "report" anything in routine patient care. The only place that doctors have to put patient information is in the medical record...that's where all the information goes. They use it to deliver patient care. The extent to which other groups or entities have access to it or how they use it is beyond the doctor's control.

So are you saying that the mandatory reporting requirements for health care workers don't really exist (for example, suspected child abuse)? Or are you just saying that because it isn't the doctor who picks up the phone or sends the email, that 'doctor's don't "report" anything'?

Because there are things that come up "in routine patient care", that if the doctor doesn't report (either directly or indirectly) puts them in legal jeopardy.

Routine patient care. Reporting certain things is mandatory by law...ie child abuse, danger to self or others, etc., but things like that wouldn't be considered routine. At least by me. I don't send a report about your smoking, your sexual preferences, your past medical history, or any other things in your problem list. If you own guns, hell if you carry a gun in the office, that doesn't get "reported" anywhere. Yet.

[MJY65]

Overall, this seems like a pretty inefficient way for the government to draw up a list. A much higher percentage could be achieved by pulling lists of CCW holders, hunting license purchasers, gun club memberships, or even the membership of boards like this. Dang near 100% positive hits if they want to start kicking doors. The physician's question wouldn't be nearly as productive, especially since the patient can lie.

[LePetomane]

Overall, this seems like a pretty inefficient way for the government to draw up a list. A much higher percentage could be achieved by pulling lists of CCW holders, hunting license purchasers, gun club memberships, or even the membership of boards like this. Dang near 100% positive hits if they want to start kicking doors. The physician's question wouldn't be nearly as productive, especially since the patient can lie.

I'm sure that is being done already.

[MJY65]

There just aren't enough people going into medicine these days, but demand is higher than ever.

Then why is it so hard for some of these kids to get into medical school? My daughter had a 3.9 GPA in Chemical Engineering (which is a hell of a lot tougher than pre-med programsand probably medical school) and didn't even get an interview at the U of MN or Mayo. Apparently they are looking for a certain type and it is not her.

I have heard similar stories from applicants to dental school. It would seem that some in the administration of those schools are more interested in checking a box for a certain demographic distribution than training our future caregivers.

[Bearcatrp]

With all medical records going digital, you can bet the government data mines this freely.

[farmerj]

Couple 3 years ago, went in for a physical for life insurance.

I really pissed off the nurse when I started to actually READ the forms they wanted me to sign.

In one place, I was signing a release of records: to all medical and mental health treatment as well as vision and dental. All military records both service and health related. State drivers license records, education records, elementary, secondary and post secondary records.

I asked the nurse what fool would sign this? She said I'm the first she had actually read it and question what I was signing.


I never was given life insurance without signing that form. It still has never been signed.

[Bearcatrp]

Couple 3 years ago, went in for a physical for life insurance.

I really pissed off the nurse when I started to actually READ the forms they wanted me to sign.

In one place, I was signing a release of records: to all medical and mental health treatment as well as vision and dental. All military records both service and health related. State drivers license records, education records, elementary, secondary and post secondary records.

I asked the nurse what fool would sign this? She said I'm the first she had actually read it and question what I was signing.


I never was given life insurance without signing that form. It still has never been signed.

I wouldn't sign it either.