9th Circuit rules against 2nd amendment right to carry

[xd ED]

When is the last time MN went for an 'R' president; Eisenhower, perhaps?

ETA: Learn something every day-

Minnesota, cobbled together from land that was part of the original United States, land acquired in the Louisiana Purchase and land acquired from Great Britain in 1818, joined the Union in May 1858. Minnesota voted exclusively Republican from 1860 through the onset of the Great Depression, except for 1912 when it sided with Progressive candidate (and former Republican) Theodore Roosevelt. From 1932 onward, the state has primarily voted Democratic, last voting Republican during Nixon’s landslide victory in 1972. Only Washington DC has a longer Democratic winning streak. In 1984, Minnesotans gave homegrown Senator Mondale his only state in the lopsided loss to Ronald Reagan. In 2012, Barack Obama defeated Mitt Romney by 7.7%.

http://www.270towin.com/states/Minnesota

so it's only been 44 years...

[sprigfan]

Considering this is the only state that Rubio won in the primaries/caucuses, I wouldn't hold my breath on Trump being the one to flip the state red. Crazier things have happened though.

[Ghost]

Considering this is the only state that Rubio won in the primaries/caucuses, I wouldn't hold my breath on Trump being the one to flip the state red. Crazier things have happened though.

If MN can vote for an idiot like Ventura then an idiot like Trump can't be too out of reach.

[INOR]

Considering this is the only state that Rubio won in the primaries/caucuses, I wouldn't hold my breath on Trump being the one to flip the state red. Crazier things have happened though.

The Republican party has already lost the general election. They're in denial. The next president will be a dem. It'll be Clinton unless the FBI investigation bears actual fruit and makes it impossible for her to continue. Otherwise, if she's forced to drop, really think Biden will step in. Either way, Clinton or Biden will decimate Trump. The polls are only going to get worse. It's going to get really, really ugly, folks.

I'm a fiscal conservative and I won't vote for Trump. That's a vote that I would have definitely cast for the R party, but now I won't. I also won't vote for the D party. So my vote will likely go to a lesser party, likely Libertarian (which truthfully better aligns with my politics anyways, but I've never voted that way as it's been a waste, so voting for the R party was the closest compromise).

Anyhow, I'll be one of the millions and millions of votes that will go wasted, but it's going to pull a vote from the R party. I think that's going to happen a lot. In contrast, the Bernie supporters are going to hold their nose and vote for Clinton. Because they hate Trump more and they'll be able to get comfortable with Clinton.

Women aren't going to vote for Trump. Minorities aren't going to vote for Trump. Young people aren't going to vote for Trump. He has already alienated too much of the population and he can't get voted into office solely by angry old white men.

Just an honest assessment of how I see things. Back to the topic at hand, gun rights are going to get hosed as a result. The Senate will continue to hold off on approving a Supreme Court nomination. But it's going to be a dem in office next year and they can't hold off on confirming someone for another five years. So everybody better buckle up. The Court is going to flip very liberal in 2017. That's what people get when they screw around and put their faith behind an ***hole like Trump.

Best hope is to vote R across the board on the House and Senate races and hope that they can hold that so that the next dem president doesn't have the full keys to the kingdom like Obama had when he took office in 2008.

I think we're screwed.

[sprigfan]

I agree completely. I too will not be voting for either one.

What are the odds that Clinton surges in the polls and the Republicans decide to go ahead and appoint Obama's nominee before the election? Republicans in the past have said he would be a great choice (don't take that to mean I agree).

Wouldn't it be nice if we actually had other political parties that were even remotely in the picture? This would be their year.

[Ghost]

A little bit of something better than Clinton is worth the vote. Throwing away your vote is seemingly unwise in our current situation.

[Holland&Holland]

Considering this is the only state that Rubio won in the primaries/caucuses, I wouldn't hold my breath on Trump being the one to flip the state red. Crazier things have happened though.

The Republican party has already lost the general election. They're in denial. The next president will be a dem. It'll be Clinton unless the FBI investigation bears actual fruit and makes it impossible for her to continue. Otherwise, if she's forced to drop, really think Biden will step in. Either way, Clinton or Biden will decimate Trump. The polls are only going to get worse. It's going to get really, really ugly, folks.

I'm a fiscal conservative and I won't vote for Trump. That's a vote that I would have definitely cast for the R party, but now I won't. I also won't vote for the D party. So my vote will likely go to a lesser party, likely Libertarian (which truthfully better aligns with my politics anyways, but I've never voted that way as it's been a waste, so voting for the R party was the closest compromise).

Anyhow, I'll be one of the millions and millions of votes that will go wasted, but it's going to pull a vote from the R party. I think that's going to happen a lot. In contrast, the Bernie supporters are going to hold their nose and vote for Clinton. Because they hate Trump more and they'll be able to get comfortable with Clinton.

Women aren't going to vote for Trump. Minorities aren't going to vote for Trump. Young people aren't going to vote for Trump. He has already alienated too much of the population and he can't get voted into office solely by angry old white men.

Just an honest assessment of how I see things. Back to the topic at hand, gun rights are going to get hosed as a result. The Senate will continue to hold off on approving a Supreme Court nomination. But it's going to be a dem in office next year and they can't hold off on confirming someone for another five years. So everybody better buckle up. The Court is going to flip very liberal in 2017. That's what people get when they screw around and put their faith behind an ***hole like Trump.

Best hope is to vote R across the board on the House and Senate races and hope that they can hold that so that the next dem president doesn't have the full keys to the kingdom like Obama had when he took office in 2008.

I think we're screwed.

Ya well you are the one who screwed us. Thanks

[xd ED]

A little bit of something better than Clinton is worth the vote. Throwing away your vote is seemingly unwise in our current situation.

Given MN, like most states, is a winner-take-all state in the electoral collage: effectively there hasn't been a MN vote cast for a Republican presidential candidate since 1972.

Therefore voting for one's candidate of choice is likely no more or less a waste than voting for trump.
As things stand, if you want your vote to truly 'count', you'll have to vote for hillary.

[xd ED]

<<<snipped....Best hope is to vote R across the board on the House and Senate races and hope that they can hold that so that the next dem president doesn't have the full keys to the kingdom like Obama had when he took office in 2008.

I think we're screwed.

I think you've touched on an area where Trump's negatives are going to doubly screw us: if a lot of people stay home, that will mean a critical number of votes NOT being cast for conservative legislators.

[Ghost]

A little bit of something better than Clinton is worth the vote. Throwing away your vote is seemingly unwise in our current situation.

Given MN, like most states, is a winner-take-all state in the electoral collage: effectively there hasn't been a MN vote cast for a Republican presidential candidate since 1972.

Therefore voting for one's candidate of choice is likely no more or less a waste than voting for trump.
As things stand, if you want your vote to truly 'count', you'll have to vote for hillary.

There's a first time for everything, it'll only happen if we try. If all gun voters in MN vote Trump, Minnesota would be Republican again.

[xd ED]

A little bit of something better than Clinton is worth the vote. Throwing away your vote is seemingly unwise in our current situation.

Given MN, like most states, is a winner-take-all state in the electoral collage: effectively there hasn't been a MN vote cast for a Republican presidential candidate since 1972.

Therefore voting for one's candidate of choice is likely no more or less a waste than voting for trump.
As things stand, if you want your vote to truly 'count', you'll have to vote for hillary.

There's a first time for everything, it'll only happen if we try. If all gun voters in MN vote Trump, Minnesota would be Republican again.

Who did all those MN "gun voters" vote for in '04, & 08'...
...and what was the result?

[Ghost]

Given MN, like most states, is a winner-take-all state in the electoral collage: effectively there hasn't been a MN vote cast for a Republican presidential candidate since 1972.

Therefore voting for one's candidate of choice is likely no more or less a waste than voting for trump.
As things stand, if you want your vote to truly 'count', you'll have to vote for hillary.

There's a first time for everything, it'll only happen if we try. If all gun voters in MN vote Trump, Minnesota would be Republican again.

Who did all those MN "gun voters" vote for in '04, & 08'...
...and what was the result?

too many people whom think their votes don't count. Thanks to them we got Frankened.

[Bearcatrp]

Face it now or after election. We are totally screwed. Trump seems to purposely trashing the republican establishment. With this ruling, and bitch clinton looks like a shoe in to put in supremes that will kill gun ownership, might as well prepare for the worst, hope for the best.

[xd ED]

too many people whom think their votes don't count. Thanks to them we got Frankened.

Explain what you think happened.

I'm saying MN is so overwhelmingly D(fl), between the metro socialists, and the iron range, that no matter what a few thousand gun enthusiasts do, we will be drowned by sheer numbers..and I mistyped the yearsin the previous post; I meant 2008, and 2012- when obama took MN. I doubt any serious gun owners were the least bit equivocal about who tho vote for, and it still made no difference in the national races.

[xd ED]

Face it now or after election. We are totally screwed. Trump seems to purposely trashing the republican establishment. With this ruling, and bitch clinton looks like a shoe in to put in supremes that will kill gun ownership, might as well prepare for the worst, hope for the best.

I'm hoping trump does too good of a job at wrecking things too soon,( as sorta seems to be the case) and that his, and hillary's high negatives inspire a 3rd, and 4th party candidate. Otherwise, yeah, we're forked.