by yukonjasper on Mon Jun 19, 2017 9:22 am
I don't think you can discount a certain amount of racial profiling and actual profiling as there was an active APB for an Armed Robbery suspect(s) in the area. The stop is one thing and the way an individual of any color handles that stop is entirely a different matter. There are assertions that certain ethnic groups get stopped at a higher rate than other ethnic groups - Lets say you don't dispute that is true, are the incidences of stops going wrong proportional to the increased number of stops? Is there a fundamental lack of understanding for how a stop is to be played out. Should drivers training or the school system spend some time walking through what is expected? Do we need a Public Service Announcement about how this is supposed to go down? I think its common sense, but that's me. I'm a middle aged, college educated, clean cut, white guy who lives in a nice suburb, so what do I know - other than how to successfully negotiate an encounter with police. Happy to say that it is very infrequent.
My Last stop for speeding was on my way up for Mother's Day and Fishing Opener went down as as many of you described. Pull over, shut off the engine, pull out my wallet and lay it on the dash, hands 10 and 2 on the wheel with the window down. Remorseful smile and greeting, pleasant respectful greeting, instructed to present my license from the wallet in full view - even offered my insurance card, upon returning to my vehicle the officer engaged in conversation and I was lectured on the speed limit, safety etc. Nodding, lots of yes sir, no sir, understand sir, sorry sir - was my fault sir. SW 642 tucked in my OWB holster on my belt, under a shirt - non factor - the stop wasn't about that and it didn't need to be discussed. End result is O slugs to the chest and 1 warning ticket to slow it down. On my way with a 10 minute delay. No chip on my shoulder, no lingering marijuana smell in the vehicle, no reaching around when told to stop moving with a handgun in plain view.
YMMV - that, to me is the correct way to participate - better yet follow the laws so you don't get pulled over, but if you screw up and get caught, I'd advise some sort of the above.
The BLM movement can choose to ignore the facts because they need something to protest, but I'm not sure they always pick the right circumstances to illustrate their cause. In general, Is there injustice, yes and I get that the family has a sense of loss - just not sure that sense of loss should rise to anger against "the system" when there is plenty of personal responsibility for not acting appropriately to look at. You can live in denial of the truth, but the truth never goes away and I don't know that, in the long run, you can get the support you are seeking with the approach they are taking, as Sympathetic as the situation may be.
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