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Cuomo issues gun crackdown through ‘first-ever state of emer

PostPosted: Tue Jul 06, 2021 6:23 pm
by jdege
https://americanmilitarynews.com/2021/07/ny-gov-cuomo-issues-gun-crackdown-through-first-ever-state-of-emergency-for-gun-violence/
NY Gov. Cuomo issues gun crackdown through ‘first-ever state of emergency for gun violence’
New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo declared a state of emergency for gun violence on Tuesday, marking the first of its kind ever enacted in the United States, the governor’s office said.

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In a statement issued Tuesday, Gov. Cuomo said his office would tackle “systemic injustices” related to gun violence in New York “just like we did with COVID.”

Re: Cuomo issues gun crackdown through ‘first-ever state of emer

PostPosted: Tue Jul 06, 2021 7:14 pm
by Grayskies
From what I've read it seems most of the gun violence is black on black.

So, would the solution be encourging white on white shootings?

This whole equity stuff has me confused.

Re: Cuomo issues gun crackdown through ‘first-ever state of emer

PostPosted: Tue Jul 06, 2021 8:25 pm
by Bearcatrp
If it’s “just like we did with covid”, expect allot more deaths.

Re: Cuomo issues gun crackdown through ‘first-ever state of emer

PostPosted: Tue Jul 06, 2021 9:37 pm
by LarryFlew
If it's like he did with Covid he can let them keep their guns and lock all together and just wait and see who lives through the lockdown.

Re: Cuomo issues gun crackdown through ‘first-ever state of emer

PostPosted: Tue Jul 06, 2021 11:15 pm
by Holland&Holland
Grayskies wrote:From what I've read it seems most of the gun violence is black on black.

So, would the solution be encourging white on white shootings?

This whole equity stuff has me confused.

If a white guy becomes a gang banger is he guilty of cultural appropriation, perpetrating systematic racism by using his white privilege to take jobs from others, or being the social change?

Re: Cuomo issues gun crackdown through ‘first-ever state of emer

PostPosted: Tue Jul 06, 2021 11:32 pm
by Grayskies
Holland&Holland wrote:
Grayskies wrote:From what I've read it seems most of the gun violence is black on black.

So, would the solution be encourging white on white shootings?

This whole equity stuff has me confused.

If a white guy becomes a gang banger is he guilty of cultural appropriation, perpetrating systematic racism by using his white privilege to take jobs from others, or being the social change?

That makes my head hurt!

Re: Cuomo issues gun crackdown through ‘first-ever state of emer

PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2021 5:19 am
by Rip Van Winkle
According to Cuomo’s office, the emergency declaration requires the New York State Division of Criminal Justice Services to “gather and share incident-level data” from local law enforcement on gun violence and invests almost $140 million in intervention, prevention and jobs programs.

In other words, He's going to bypass his state legislature to spend more money doing the same failed policies he's already been doing.

Re: Cuomo issues gun crackdown through ‘first-ever state of emer

PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2021 5:45 am
by bstrawse
jdege wrote:https://americanmilitarynews.com/2021/07/ny-gov-cuomo-issues-gun-crackdown-through-first-ever-state-of-emergency-for-gun-violence/
NY Gov. Cuomo issues gun crackdown through ‘first-ever state of emergency for gun violence’
New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo declared a state of emergency for gun violence on Tuesday, marking the first of its kind ever enacted in the United States, the governor’s office said.

[...]

In a statement issued Tuesday, Gov. Cuomo said his office would tackle “systemic injustices” related to gun violence in New York “just like we did with COVID.”


I'll add that Governor Walz (or any MN Governor) cannot do things like this because the Governor is specifically prohibited from taking actions against guns, gun shops, permit holders, and several related topics using emergency powers due to a 2015 bill that we were able to push through a divided legislature (DFL Senate, GOP House) and convince Governor Dayton to sign.

Bryan

Re: Cuomo issues gun crackdown through ‘first-ever state of emer

PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2021 10:04 pm
by BigDog58
bstrawse wrote:
jdege wrote:https://americanmilitarynews.com/2021/07/ny-gov-cuomo-issues-gun-crackdown-through-first-ever-state-of-emergency-for-gun-violence/
NY Gov. Cuomo issues gun crackdown through ‘first-ever state of emergency for gun violence’
New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo declared a state of emergency for gun violence on Tuesday, marking the first of its kind ever enacted in the United States, the governor’s office said.

[...]

In a statement issued Tuesday, Gov. Cuomo said his office would tackle “systemic injustices” related to gun violence in New York “just like we did with COVID.”


I'll add that Governor Walz (or any MN Governor) cannot do things like this because the Governor is specifically prohibited from taking actions against guns, gun shops, permit holders, and several related topics using emergency powers due to a 2015 bill that we were able to push through a divided legislature (DFL Senate, GOP House) and convince Governor Dayton to sign.

Bryan


Bryan, getting this passed into law was Great Foresight. I'm guessing it won't be long before the Antigun crowd research this, and start screaming that it needs to be "fixed".

Re: Cuomo issues gun crackdown through ‘first-ever state of emer

PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2021 5:45 am
by Holland&Holland
It will be called the right wing extremist loophole. You know because it stops a dictatorship from doing what they feel is best for the people.

Re: Cuomo issues gun crackdown through ‘first-ever state of emer

PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2021 6:20 am
by Rip Van Winkle
BigDog58 wrote:Bryan, getting this passed into law was Great Foresight. I'm guessing it won't be long before the Antigun crowd research this, and start screaming that it needs to be "fixed".

IIRC, this law was passed in response to the gun confiscation shenanigans in New Orleans post Katrina.

Re: Cuomo issues gun crackdown through ‘first-ever state of emer

PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2021 7:06 am
by bstrawse
Rip Van Winkle wrote:
BigDog58 wrote:Bryan, getting this passed into law was Great Foresight. I'm guessing it won't be long before the Antigun crowd research this, and start screaming that it needs to be "fixed".

IIRC, this law was passed in response to the gun confiscation shenanigans in New Orleans post Katrina.


You are correct! That argument worked with everyone, including the DFL.
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Re: Cuomo issues gun crackdown through ‘first-ever state of emer

PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2021 7:07 am
by bstrawse
BigDog58 wrote:Bryan, getting this passed into law was Great Foresight. I'm guessing it won't be long before the Antigun crowd research this, and start screaming that it needs to be "fixed".


Most interestingly, they didn't bring it up the past ~20 months or so.

My favorite part of this though was watching Senator Ron Latz argue in favor of 5 pro-gun bills on the Senate floor to be included as a part of the Omnibus that year as the DFL controlled the Senate at the time.

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