Mississippi River defensive gun use

[MJY65]

I'm going to attend the Community Meeting at St Thomas tonight.

I feel like more details about the shooter, .............

I hope they reveal as little as possible about the shooter's identity.

[photogpat]

I'm going to attend the Community Meeting at St Thomas tonight.

I feel like more details about the shooter, .............

I hope they reveal as little as possible about the shooter's identity.

I don't expect (or hope) we'll ever get the shooter's identity.

[xd ED]

I'm going to attend the Community Meeting at St Thomas tonight.

I feel like more details about the shooter, .............

I hope they reveal as little as possible about the shooter's identity.

^^^THIS^^^


If they opened the meeting to questions, it would be interesting to learn why they charged the accomplices as they did.
They are train wrecks in the making.

I suspect it will be a canned presentation to assure locals they are safe and the police have it all covered.
Were I in town tonight I might attend too.

[photogpat]

^^^THIS^^^


If they opened the meeting to questions, it would be interesting to learn why they charged the accomplices as they did.
They are train wrecks in the making.

I suspect it will be a canned presentation to assure locals they are safe and the police have it all covered.
Were I in town tonight I might attend too.

I want to ask why the accomplices weren't charged with homicide due to having been participants in a felony leading to a death.

[BigBlue]

Wow, nice article telling it like it is from Soucheray:

http://www.twincities.com/crime/ci_28595670/joe-soucheray-st-paul-shooting-leaves-clear-lesson

But kids, the lessons to be learned are not complicated, not complicated at all. Don't steal cars. Don't rob people. Don't attempt to be courageous in the name of a ridiculous gang. Yes, it can be tough to keep your act together but never so tough that you resort to whimsical armed-robbery attempts. We have no evidence that these young men were quite literally hungry or desperate for anything.

They were ... playing gangster.

But when you play gangster you never know who you are going to run into, even at a confluence of bicyclists, joggers, stargazers and lovers, any one of which Broadbent could have been instead of a now lost soul.

[Squib Joe]

I don't expect (or hope) we'll ever get the shooter's identity.

There is more than a slim chance that somebody on this forum knows this guy or that he is a member here himself. I would hope that we all respect his need for privacy and safety above all.

[ttousi]

I don't expect (or hope) we'll ever get the shooter's identity.

There is more than a slim chance that somebody on this forum knows this guy or that he is a member here himself. I would hope that we all respect his need for privacy and safety above all.

Per the rules

3. Personal information about others must remain private. If the information about a member is not contained in their profile then it is considered private.

A swift and permanent ban to anyone publishing the persons identity

[photogpat]

SPPD are guarding the shooter's ID (and other victim) vigilantly due to "numerous death threats". As they should.

They will NOT be charging the accomplices with felony homicide.

For some reason...

[ijosef]

Worse than Heather and crew, this person will be under constant threat of retribution. It's part of the twisted thug life gangsta "code". It doesn't matter if your homey was in the wrong, someone has to pay.

Exactly. The thug was justifiably and rightfully put down. There is no legitimate revenge to be had, but the thug mentality doesn't allow them to see it that way. It's sickening that folks actually thing that way. Disagreements are disagreements - we argue about stuff all the time on these boards, but when it comes down to core issues, I think we all know right and wrong.

Unfortunately, a lot those types do not.

[xd ED]

There hasn't yet been much news about the Thursday night meeting at St Thomas, but this paragraph offers some insights into the people and culture involved:

Senior Cmdr. Paul Iovino, in charge of the police department's western district, said .....

...it's clear gang activity had a lot to do with the incident last week as well as an incident Sunday night in which shots were fired during a vigil at the monument for Broadbent, the 16-year-old West St.
Paul boy who was killed and who was reportedly a member of the Shoota Boys Gang.
Iovino elicited gasps from the crowd when he revealed that the shots Sunday were fired not at the vigil but from the vigil. He said someone in the crowd saw a car approaching, mistook it for a rival gang member's car and opened fire. He said it turned out the car was driven by a friend bringing music to the vigil. No one was injured.

At forum, St. Paul residents fret about riverside robbery - TwinCities.com

[xd ED]

SPPD are guarding the shooter's ID (and other victim) vigilantly due to "numerous death threats". As they should.

They will NOT be charging the accomplices with felony homicide.

For some reason...

That's truly unfortunate for everyone.

The only thing that stopped these thugs' ongoing rampage were the actions of an armed, private citizen.
There was an opportunity for the judiciary to step up and perform it's duty to protect society; primarily by isolating the perpetrators, and secondarily sending a message to all the wannabes - and mothers of wannabes that can do no wrong - that associating with people doing stupid things wins one stupid prizes as well.

An opportunity lost

[Ghost]

I don't expect (or hope) we'll ever get the shooter's identity.

There is more than a slim chance that somebody on this forum knows this guy or that he is a member here himself. I would hope that we all respect his need for privacy and safety above all.

The generalities would be interesting but I don't need to know the name.

[BigBlue]

From that same article:

Residents also questioned and criticized the role of guns in the incident. Some asked whether the owner of the gun Broadbent got from a stolen car should be held responsible. Others asked questions about the man who killed Broadbent, such as whether he lived in the neighborhood, how many shots he fired and whether Broadbent lowered his gun before the man shot him.

Un-f-ing-believable!! What kind of mindset is that?? Hold the guy whose property was stolen responsible for what happened to it? That's some clear thinking.

How about holding the punks who stole it responsible? And the punks who robbed people? They are the ******** problem.

[LePetomane]

From that same article:

Residents also questioned and criticized the role of guns in the incident. Some asked whether the owner of the gun Broadbent got from a stolen car should be held responsible. Others asked questions about the man who killed Broadbent, such as whether he lived in the neighborhood, how many shots he fired and whether Broadbent lowered his gun before the man shot him.

Un-f-ing-believable!! What kind of mindset is that?? Hold the guy whose property was stolen responsible for what happened to it? That's some clear thinking.

How about holding the punks who stole it responsible? And the punks who robbed people? They are the ******** problem.

This thinking provides insight into how the liberal mind works. Never assign blame where it is due if the perpetrators are of a certain racial or ethnic persuasion.

[photogpat]

There were a number of people who expressed outrage that the guy whose car (and guns) were stolen wasn't charged.

Also some predictable spouting off against the NRA - the antis are absolutely FURIOUS that this was a legitimate defensive use by a permit holder.