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Gun Control Almost Here

Postby North Star Packer on Tue Apr 06, 2010 9:24 am

U.S. reverses stance on treaty to regulate arms trade...



WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States reversed policy on Wednesday
and said it would back launching talks on a treaty to regulate arms
sales as long as the talks operated by consensus, a stance critics
said gave every nation a veto.



The decision, announced in a statement released by the U.S. State
Department, overturns the position of former President George W.
Bush's administration, which had opposed such a treaty on the grounds
that national controls were better.



On Wednesday Obama Took the First Major Step in a Plan to Ban All
Firearms in the United States . The Obama administration intends to
force gun control and a complete ban on all weapons for US citizens
through the signing of international treaties with foreign nations.
By signing international treaties on gun control, the Obama
administration can use the US State Department to bypass the normal
legislative process in Congress. Once the US Government signs these
international treaties, all US citizens will be subject to those gun
laws created by foreign governments. These are laws that have been
developed and promoted by organizations such as the United Nations
and individuals such as George Soros and Michael Bloomberg. The laws
are designed and intended to lead to the complete ban and
confiscation of all firearms.



The Obama administration is attempting to use tactics and methods of
gun control that will inflict major damage to our 2nd Amendment
before US citizens even understand what has happened. Obama can
appear before the public and tell them that he does not intend to
pursue any legislation (in the United States) that will lead to new
gun control laws, while cloaked in secrecy, his Secretary of State,
Hillary Clinton is committing the US to international treaties and
foreign gun control laws. Does that mean Obama is telling the truth?
What it means is that there will be no publicized gun control debates
in the media or votes in Congress. We will wake up one morning and
find that the United States has signed a treaty that prohibits
firearm and ammunition manufacturers from selling to the public. We
will wake up another morning and find that the US has signed a treaty
that prohibits any transfer of firearm ownership. And then, we will
wake up yet another morning and find that the US has signed a treaty
that requires US citizens to deliver any firearm they own to the
local government collection and destruction center or face
imprisonment.



This is not a joke nor a false warning. As sure as government health
care will be forced on us by the Obama administration through
whatever means necessary, so will gun control.



Please forward this message to others who may be concerned about the
direction in which our country is headed.



We are being led like a lamb to the slaughter
(Socialism/Dictatorship).

Psalm 109:8
Ecc. 10:2

IN GOD WE TRUST
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Re: Gun Control Almost Here

Postby Paul on Tue Apr 06, 2010 9:28 am

Do you have a link or source for this? When I Google it, anything relevant is at least six months old.
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Re: Gun Control Almost Here

Postby Stradawhovious on Tue Apr 06, 2010 9:28 am

Link please.
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Re: Gun Control Almost Here

Postby nyffman on Tue Apr 06, 2010 9:36 am

While it's no secret that this *resident would like to and has been working on ways of circumventing our Constitution regarding firearms and the 2nd amendment, he can not accomplish this unilaterally. In the US, treaty ratification must be advised and consented to by a two-thirds vote in the Senate in order to be binding on the US. And the lack of current information should be no surprise. Most of the media is falling over each other trying to show how much the love him. But, that email is, in large part, fearmongering. Unless someone can straighten me out, he still needs a 2/3 vote of the Senate to do this.
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Re: Gun Control Almost Here

Postby mnglocker on Tue Apr 06, 2010 9:50 am

I'd like to see it enforced. [/sarcasm]

Do you guy have any idea how many guns and how much ammo has been aquired by the American populous since October 2008? More than enough to arm the entire standing army of China, India and pick a random 3rd army. This country is an effing powder keg of people prepped for civil unrest. If the *resident signed some klintoon gun-control crap into law there would be a civil war in a time frame that would catagorize as a microcosm in the history of this country. There's been something a brewing for the last 3-4 years and the pot's nearing full.
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Re: Gun Control Almost Here

Postby Stradawhovious on Tue Apr 06, 2010 9:55 am

After further review, I'm going to call this one a "fear pearl" with a tiny tiny grain of truth in the middle. Googling random sections of the text I get hits on sites like "freedomfighterradio.net" "infowars.com" "craigslist.org" "restoretherepublic.net" and so on. Every link was broken (or rejected by my "malicious site" filter) except for the link HEREat rumormillnews.com. Don't bother clicking the link, the text is the same as the OP and it offers a broken link to a Reuters article that doesn't exist.
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Re: Gun Control Almost Here

Postby DeanC on Tue Apr 06, 2010 10:07 am

This is the Reuters article: http://www.reuters.com/article/politics ... Q920091015

I have fisked this before and I'm not doing it again. You guys are doing fine.
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Re: Gun Control Almost Here

Postby Stradawhovious on Tue Apr 06, 2010 10:11 am

Thanks for the link to the Reuters article, Col. Cufflink.

After reading it, I'm standing by my statement that I believe the chain email in the OP is a fear pearl.
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Re: Gun Control Almost Here

Postby John S. on Tue Apr 06, 2010 2:36 pm

nyffman wrote:While it's no secret that this *resident would like to and has been working on ways of circumventing our Constitution regarding firearms and the 2nd amendment, he can not accomplish this unilaterally. In the US, treaty ratification must be advised and consented to by a two-thirds vote in the Senate in order to be binding on the US. And the lack of current information should be no surprise. Most of the media is falling over each other trying to show how much the love him. But, that email is, in large part, fearmongering. Unless someone can straighten me out, he still needs a 2/3 vote of the Senate to do this.


Healthcare passed though.........didn't it??????????? :roll:
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Re: Gun Control Almost Here

Postby DeanC on Tue Apr 06, 2010 2:44 pm

John S. wrote:Healthcare passed though.........didn't it??????????? :roll:

Not by a 2/3 vote. Not even close.
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Re: Gun Control Almost Here

Postby ex-LT on Tue Apr 06, 2010 2:46 pm

John S. wrote:
nyffman wrote:While it's no secret that this *resident would like to and has been working on ways of circumventing our Constitution regarding firearms and the 2nd amendment, he can not accomplish this unilaterally. In the US, treaty ratification must be advised and consented to by a two-thirds vote in the Senate in order to be binding on the US. And the lack of current information should be no surprise. Most of the media is falling over each other trying to show how much the love him. But, that email is, in large part, fearmongering. Unless someone can straighten me out, he still needs a 2/3 vote of the Senate to do this.


Healthcare passed though.........didn't it??????????? :roll:

Yes, but the way they did it, they only required a simple majority. P*BO doesn't have the 2/3 majority he would need for treaty ratification.
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Re: Gun Control Almost Here

Postby nyffman on Tue Apr 06, 2010 11:42 pm

And, votes against guns has almost become the new third rail. One reason that ammo has been scarce lately. Not to mention the reason why Obama was selected as gun salesman of the year, with justification.
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Re: Gun Control Almost Here

Postby tweener on Mon May 10, 2010 10:16 pm

mnglocker wrote:I'd like to see it enforced. [/sarcasm]

Do you guy have any idea how many guns and how much ammo has been aquired by the American populous since October 2008? More than enough to arm the entire standing army of China, India and pick a random 3rd army. This country is an effing powder keg of people prepped for civil unrest. If the *resident signed some klintoon gun-control crap into law there would be a civil war in a time frame that would catagorize as a microcosm in the history of this country. There's been something a brewing for the last 3-4 years and the pot's nearing full.



I concur...

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