More from the boys in Blue - UK style

[selurcspi]

This looks like a training problem... As usual!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1294974/Bungling-armed-police-fired-guns-accidentally-110-TIMES-3-years.html

[R.E.T.]

Is this what people are thinking about when they say only the police and military should have guns?

[nyffman]

Could that be part of the thinking behind the 2nd amendment? Maybe if people have firearms as a normal part of their life, they will be more comfortable and familiar with their use when the time comes that they are needed in defense? What a concept.

[hammAR]

Maybe if people have firearms as a normal part of their life, they will be more comfortable and familiar with their use when the time comes that they are needed in defense? What a concept.

Curious, do you think that this concept is applicable to other aspects of their life,
considering that their population is declining.....

[justaguy]

Real operators there.

[nyffman]

Maybe if people have firearms as a normal part of their life, they will be more comfortable and familiar with their use when the time comes that they are needed in defense? What a concept.

Curious, do you think that this concept is applicable to other aspects of their life,
considering that their population is declining.....

Not sure what you're getting at, or if you received the same message that I was trying to send. I'll try again and we'll see where this goes. My point was, that GB has incrementally been eliminating guns from their culture with increasingly stringent laws in 1920, 1937, 1968, 1988 and 1997. Thus, the young men and women who become police officers during that time period are becoming less likely to have grown up around firearms with the passage of each of these laws. Since it has been 13 years since the 1997 law passed, do the math. The younger cops, most likely did not have guns around them as they grew up. Now that they have chosen a profession that involves the use of guns, they are learning while they earn, things that many of us in the US who have been around firearms since we were kids have known for a long time. So, yeah, I don't think you can trump experience, in any aspect of life.

[selurcspi]

Nyffman,
Growing up with guns is a double edged sword and it cuts if the training is good or bad. If I had a dollar for every person I see casually point a (unloaded [maybe]) gun at people when casually handling it or generally showing poor respect for a firearms capabilities, I would be able to buy Microsoft. What I think you mean is "correctly trained as they were brought up with firearms". After spending most of my recreational time in a range since 1983 the bad habits of people "brought up around guns" scares the shorts off me. I'd rather have a bunch of newbies (that can be trained) rather than a single "Good Old boy" on the range with me.

[nyffman]

Good point. And, you, having lived through the implementation of some of these laws, would know better than I. But, it seems that, as things become more oppressive in terms of personal firearm ownership, it would be increasingly difficult to maintain enough good, qualified instructors even for police needs.

[selurcspi]

Good point. And, you, having lived through the implementation of some of these laws, would know better than I. But, it seems that, as things become more oppressive in terms of personal firearm ownership, it would be increasingly difficult to maintain enough good, qualified instructors even for police needs.

With police training, you need the trainers to be exposed to developing technique or before very long, you have the same bad ideas being taught to the next generation of fireams officers and then the whole thing becomes a game of "Telephone" (Chinese Whispers in England)

[GregM]

They need more gun control laws!

[selurcspi]

They need more gun control laws!