2011.02.09 News Report ... WMD in San Diego?

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2011.02.09 News Report ... WMD in San Diego?

Postby ElectricalEngineer on Mon Feb 14, 2011 9:55 am

Title: Nukes found at Port of San Diego? Part 1/3 (2/9/2011)

ABC News 10 in San Diego

Sobering ... but not unexpected?

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Re: 2011.02.09 News Report ... WMD in San Diego?

Postby Paul on Mon Feb 14, 2011 10:00 am

What a coincidence... I just got an e-mail about this exact news story.
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Re: 2011.02.09 News Report ... WMD in San Diego?

Postby DeanC on Mon Feb 14, 2011 10:30 am

http://www.10news.com/news/26814508/detail.html

"So, specifically, you're looking for the dirty bomb? You're looking for the nuclear device?" asked Blacher.

"Correct. Weapons of mass effect," Hallor said.

"You ever found one?" asked Blacher.

"Not at this location," Hallor said.

"But they have found them?" asked Blacher.

"Yes," said Hallor.

"You never found one in San Diego though?" Blacher asked.

"I would say at the port of San Diego we have not," Hallor said.

"Have you found one in San Diego?" Blacher asked.

The interview was interrupted before Hallor was able to answer the question.


And dangit - they didn't get to ask him if they have ever found Obama's Birth Certificate or the missing Rose Law Firm files. :lol:
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Re: 2011.02.09 News Report ... WMD in San Diego?

Postby gyrfalcon on Mon Feb 14, 2011 10:39 am

They're complete and utter liars if they said nuclear devices have never been found on US soil. Not only has the US military lost nuclear devices in the US, nuclear material is frequently imported and exported.

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Re: 2011.02.09 News Report ... WMD in San Diego?

Postby traveler on Mon Feb 14, 2011 12:33 pm

On September 15, 1958, a B-52D, Serial Number 55-065A, crashed into a farm in Inver Grove Heights. Bodies were found in the wreckage and in the surrounding neighborhoods. Only one officer, Captain Jack D. Craft, the co-pilot, survived.

The U.S. Air Force has never acknowledged if the craft carried nuclear devices, however the crash site was immediately closed down to civilians and Air Force police guarded the perimeter for weeks with M1 carbines.

At that time, SAC had 1/3 of it's B-52 bombers in the air at any given time. Aircraft 55-065A was one of that group that day. SAC acknowledges that all of those bombers were equipped with nuclear weapons … except for 55-065A.

As many pieces of the bomber as possible were recovered from the sanitized crash site. The were painstakingly laid out on the floor of a hanger at Wold-Chamberlain (MSP).
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Re: 2011.02.09 News Report ... WMD in San Diego?

Postby ex-LT on Mon Feb 14, 2011 1:04 pm

traveler wrote:SAC acknowledges that all of those bombers were equipped with nuclear weapons … except for 55-065A.


SAC needs to take a cue from the Navy. "I can neither confirm nor deny the presence of special weapons aboard this vessel."
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Re: 2011.02.09 News Report ... WMD in San Diego?

Postby Tommy Gun on Mon Feb 14, 2011 4:39 pm

traveler wrote:Only one officer, Captain Jack D. Craft, the co-pilot, survived.


That sounds like a made-up name to me. :?
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Re: 2011.02.09 News Report ... WMD in San Diego?

Postby traveler on Mon Feb 14, 2011 4:44 pm

Tommy Gun wrote:
traveler wrote:Only one officer, Captain Jack D. Craft, the co-pilot, survived.


That sounds like a made-up name to me. :?


I am afraid not. There is a monument which notes his being the sole survivor located at the crash site in Inver Grove Heights. How something may "sound" to your ear does not affect its authenticity.
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Re: 2011.02.09 News Report ... WMD in San Diego?

Postby Dave Pendleton on Mon Feb 14, 2011 5:33 pm

I'm uncertain who the authority on such incidents would be besides the military, but it's not too hard to find documentation for incidents involving nuclear weapons on many sites around the web.

I would consider this one be pretty credible, considering it's source.

http://www.cdi.org/issues/nukeaccidents/accidents.htm

Note it does not mention an incident in IGH. Personally, I think it's pretty unlikely it was carrying a nuclear device.
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Re: 2011.02.09 News Report ... WMD in San Diego?

Postby Tommy Gun on Mon Feb 14, 2011 5:33 pm

traveler wrote:
Tommy Gun wrote:
traveler wrote:Only one officer, Captain Jack D. Craft, the co-pilot, survived.


That sounds like a made-up name to me. :? ;) :D


I am afraid not. There is a monument which notes his being the sole survivor located at the crash site in Inver Grove Heights. How something may "sound" to your ear does not affect its authenticity.


There. I fixed my smilies to make it clear I was just trying to have some fun with it. Besides, whether I find the name made up doesn't mean I meant that I thought the whole thing was made up.

Since we're being serious, you should put some sourcing (i.e. links). [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_accidents_and_incidents_involving_military_aircraft_(1950–1959)]Here are[/url] a couple. Admittedly, Wikipedia is kind of lame for a source, but I've got someplace to be.

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Re: 2011.02.09 News Report ... WMD in San Diego?

Postby traveler on Mon Feb 14, 2011 7:55 pm

Tommy Gun wrote:Since we're being serious, you should put some sourcing (i.e. links). [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_accidents_and_incidents_involving_military_aircraft_(1950–1959)]Here are[/url] a couple. Admittedly, Wikipedia is kind of lame for a source, but I've got someplace to be.

Oh, yeah. Welcome to MGT! :welcome:


In fact, I wrote the book. That is not being cute. I did.

Joe Baugher is credited in my book as a contributor. He has picked up many accident reports from me for his records, and he has shared many of his own in the writing of my book. My records cover 1940 to 1960. Joe is a good friend.

I have done exhaustive research, and I have the official crash documents (declassified after so many years) for all of the Air Force, Army Air Force, and other military accidents I could find for Minnesota.

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Re: 2011.02.09 News Report ... WMD in San Diego?

Postby Dave Pendleton on Mon Feb 14, 2011 8:04 pm

Interesting.

You are? And the book is titled?
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Re: 2011.02.09 News Report ... WMD in San Diego?

Postby traveler on Mon Feb 14, 2011 8:17 pm

Dave Pendleton wrote:Interesting.

You are? And the book is titled?


Sorry. I have not, and will not, spam on any web forum pages. A Google search of Minnesota Military Air Disasters or Minnesota Military Air Incidents and Disasters 1940-1960 should suffice.
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Re: 2011.02.09 News Report ... WMD in San Diego?

Postby Dave Pendleton on Mon Feb 14, 2011 8:18 pm

traveler wrote:
Dave Pendleton wrote:Interesting.

You are? And the book is titled?


Sorry. I have not, and will not, spam on any web forum pages. A Google search of Minnesota Military Air Disasters or Minnesota Military Air Incidents and Disasters 1940-1960 should suffice.


Okay. I wouldn't consider that spam, but I'll do the search.
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Re: 2011.02.09 News Report ... WMD in San Diego?

Postby xd ED on Mon Feb 14, 2011 8:32 pm

The IGH B52 crash has fascinated me since I learned of it some 10 years ago. I lived out of the state when it happened so I wasn't aware of it until I was doing some googling on an unrelated topic. My late uncle, a WWII aircraft mechanic, and WSP resident vividly recalled it and spent some time at the crash site, From what I've learned that plane was not armed, as it was on a training mission:
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