Star Tribune article on thugs and guns

View · by **tazdevil** on Fri Mar 22, 2013 9:28 pm

http://www.startribune.com/local/north/199468241.html

Well, they show a slight tendency to finally not blame the gun first. Does show quite well how guns are not the problem, but that depends on the reader's interpretation of the article itself. Remove the thug problem, and suddenly a lot of violent crimes/murders are eliminated. Imagine that. Oh, good thing it was a ugly gun too.

View · by **301spartan** on Fri Mar 22, 2013 9:50 pm

Don't worry I can guarantee they will run a anti gun article over the weekend.

View · by **MrDig** on Sat Mar 23, 2013 9:08 am

"The long and shadowy circulation of handguns like the Hi-Point often confounds police and can elude gun control laws."

They edited "illegally obtained" out of the sentence, the sentence should read ,

The long and shadowy circulation of illegally obtained handguns like the Hi-Point often confounds police and can elude gun control laws.

This is the problem with these articles, my handguns though used, have no long shadowy history. I know their provenance quite well. If you ask the S'Trib' All of them have a long shadowy history because well they are evil guns just like any gun.

View · by **longsniper** on Sat Mar 23, 2013 4:07 pm

If the Star Trib would offer a few weeks of a free subscription...I may just take them up on it so I could have the pleasure of throwing it straight in the Garbage without even opening it.

View · by **XDM45** on Sun Mar 24, 2013 12:53 am

...and in other news, everyone poops.

Why does this surprise anyone that lamestream media suckles on the teets of the AGer's agenda?

Next week someone from Minnesota will die overseas in the military. It happens.
Tomorrow a television or print media outlet will do an anti-gun/pro-gun control story. It happens.
7+ billion people are alive and breathing right now. It happens.
Every day some people are born and other people die. It happens.

So what else is news and REAL news? nothing....and nothing in the lamestream media for certain.

NEXT!!

View · by **karlobag** on Sun Mar 24, 2013 7:23 am

The Hiawatha light rail ine has killed more people than this evil black gun. I bet you will never see that headline in the Strib.........

View · by **XDM45** on Sun Mar 24, 2013 7:56 am

karlobag wrote:The Hiawatha light rail ine has killed more people than this evil black gun. I bet you will never see that headline in the Strib.........

So the light has killed more people than the dark? Oh.. so you're saying white (light) people kill more than the blacks (dark) do? (yeah, we probably have throughout history.,.and I'm white, so I can say that.)

My point is, that's how lamestream media works and they are complete MASTERS at spinning things to fit their myopic, agenda-driven-worldview.

They can take anything and twist it, just like how I did to your own words. (....and please, no offense was meant to you or anyone in this example, so please, lets not have anyone get bent out of shape and call me a racist or some lie like that.)

The media can take words and images completely out of context, turn it into a whole thing about something else, such as in this case like I did about racism and run with it and the next thing you know, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and Spike Lee are all ranting about how the white man in Washington is trying to keep the black rifles down, how they need to be emancipated and free like their human brothers and sisters are, etc.

The safest bet is to avoid the Kool Aid of lamestream media. Think of it as when someone's primary source of information is Wikipedia, we all know how inaccurate and biased that is, no one trusts it as a primary source of information unless they're fools, and it's the same thing with the media. It doesn't surprise anyone that some basement dweller on Wikipedia charges things, so why should the media be any different, especially when their backed by money.

View · by **ronin069** on Sun Mar 24, 2013 8:22 am

It would appear anyway, that the editorial staff of the Strib has decided to hang their hat on the "anti" approach. Drives me crazy that my wife insists on getting the Sunday paper every week...I'd give about anything to have a more neutral paper to read. Even their "comments" permitted on stories seem to be based on whether or not THEY are interested in anyone debating a story.

It is always interesting to me that when there is a "hot" story about an urban youth who may have committed a crime, no comments are permitted. Whenever they run a story about Milacs (sic), they open the comment section right up and let the "red neck, racist white guys" beat the **** out of the Indian's who net the lake...not really sure what the link is there, but it seems like it is okay to let folks look bad by yelling at the Indian's for over-fishing, but we don't wan't to allow the public any debate over something like crime in the metro area.

View · by **bensdad** on Sun Mar 24, 2013 12:32 pm

My dad passed away on Feb. 13th. The only fun moment I've had in dealing with his property/financials/paperwork/trust/etc. was calling the strib and cancelling his newspaper subscription. I got to cash a check FROM THEM.

View · by **Snakeman721** on Mon Mar 25, 2013 12:44 pm

Did anyone read towards the end of the article about Cinque (sp) Owens getting done with some sort of gun safety education crap class because he was arrested for illegal possession!!! A freakin class...really! You or I would be locked up if found to be carrying without a permit! Also, the part when police officers followed him around until Owens and his thug buddies try to rob some people at gunpoint! Again...really! Those innocent people could have very easily been shot dead while the cops were "watching". Unbelievable!!!

View · by **XDM45** on Mon Mar 25, 2013 1:01 pm

bensdad wrote:My dad passed away on Feb. 13th. The only fun moment I've had in dealing with his property/financials/paperwork/trust/etc. was calling the strib and cancelling his newspaper subscription. I got to cash a check FROM THEM.

I'm sorry for your loss. Been there, done that.

I lost my mother in August 2006 and my dad in April 2012. I don't know if this is your first or second parent passing, but when you lose one, it doesn't really prepare you for losing the second one because once both are gone, you're really at the top of the familial ladder. There's no one above my sisters and I. We each head up our own families, and we are all part of our family without any patriarch or matriarch above us; but that's the way nature intended it to be....children outlive the parents.

I was fortunate enough that may parents were well-prepared and planned for years to take care of all of the things needed after their passing one day; so that and the fact they both went from Cancer and had some time left after each own's terminal diagnosis was also a blessing. It wasn't like they were taken suddenly, which would provide its' own unique set of feelings I'm sure. I've lost friends and co-workers suddenly, but never family.

Anyway, this post isn't about me...it's about you and your loss. I just didn't want to be one of those people that says "I understand" when clearly I don't have a clue...well, as I said, been there, done that, do understand and I can relate. Hopefully you have people you can converse with and bend their ear, but if not, feel free to talk to me. Some people end up alone in this World and that's not a good thing for anyone. They end up doing crazy things like having a household with cats, guns, and shaking their cane at the kids on the lawn, you know, my typical Saturday night.......wait......I'm not alone, so what's my excuse?

View · by **spyder357** on Mon Mar 25, 2013 6:52 pm

"His father, a gang member, was killed at age 21. Gomez was 2 years old."

"Gomez grew up wanting to be a gangbanger like his dad, even as he graduated from high school in June 2011 and prepared to go to the University of North Dakota."

"Malo Dashaunta Gomez used the stolen Hi-Point to shoot at two police officers in July 2011. Now he’s serving a 26-year sentence."

Good lord, dad dead at 21 and you want to follow in his footsteps (and accepted to college no less!). These are the kind of idiots that make me glad we've got a carry law.

View · by **Mn01r6** on Mon Mar 25, 2013 7:22 pm

To be fair, it was UND.

/go gophers

View · by **Snakeman721** on Tue Mar 26, 2013 5:39 pm

spyder357 wrote:"His father, a gang member, was killed at age 21. Gomez was 2 years old."

"Gomez grew up wanting to be a gangbanger like his dad, even as he graduated from high school in June 2011 and prepared to go to the University of North Dakota."

"Malo Dashaunta Gomez used the stolen Hi-Point to shoot at two police officers in July 2011. Now he’s serving a 26-year sentence."

Good lord, dad dead at 21 and you want to follow in his footsteps (and accepted to college no less!). These are the kind of idiots that make me glad we've got a carry law.

Prepared to go to college doesn't necessarily mean he was accepted.

View · by **JustMe** on Tue Mar 26, 2013 6:44 pm

I just realized (I had read the Strib article when it first came out--no I did not buy an issue of the paper) when now looking at the article quotes in this thread that "Malo" is not a great first name to have, especially when shooting at the police. It is a Spanish word for "bad", although it's root word is "mal". Kind of reminds me of the Far Side cartoon with the 2 deer in conversation in the woods. One has what appears to be a bullseye target on his chest and the other is saying to him "Bummer of a birthmark Hal".