California Passes Ammo Permit Fee, This Sucks

[george]

Hope this wasn't already posted, didn't see it.

Every time an individual buys a box of ammo, they must submit personal information for review and pay a $50 permit fee. After the private details and money has been paid, the state will then, and only then, decide if the customer will be allowed to put the ammunition into a sack and walk out of the store. The same day purchase of ammunition in California may be a thing of the past, depending upon how long it takes for the background results to return.

http://www.offthegridnews.com/2013/06/13/breaking-california-passes-ammo-permit-fee/

Looks like a lot of of road trips will be necessary for ammo. (out of state)

I jest hope this isn't the start of another fight every where.

[shooter115]

It's bad, but not as bad as the story makes it sound. You have to pay $50 annually, not for every box of ammo. It's a ******** bill, but the author should do a little bit of research before "reporting".

[bofe954]

Illinois has a FOID that's about the same. It's cheaper though.

[BBeckwith]

As I read the law the $50 is for a business to get the permit to sell. The $ amount for the buyer did not list a $ amount just a fee that must not be more then a reasonable cost to process the permit. I am assuming that it being California they will jack it as high as possible. It is possible that I missed the end user cost as well

[infidel]

This is all about the ruling class preventing the poor from defending themselves. (read Hispanic, Black, ANY minority, and old people).

Jim Crow?

Real "Progressives" would never stand for it.

[TH3180]

This is all about the ruling class preventing the poor from defending themselves. (read Hispanic, Black, ANY minority, and old people).

Jim Crow?

Wait a minute. I'm a poor, white 30 something......... Er, I reload. So screw them. Oh, and went to school after I high school. So I guess I'm really not that po....... Never mind, carry on.

[Deputyhiro]

This is all about the ruling class preventing the poor from defending themselves. (read Hispanic, Black, ANY minority, and old people).

Jim Crow?

Real "Progressives" would never stand for it.

Kinda like voter ID keeps minorities and poor from voting?

[westhope]

Kinda like voter ID keeps minorities and poor from voting?

Like needing to showing proof of citizenship to register to vote. Latest SCOTUS opinion.

[mrp]

As I read the law the $50 is for a business to get the permit to sell. The $ amount for the buyer did not list a $ amount just a fee that must not be more then a reasonable cost to process the permit. I am assuming that it being California they will jack it as high as possible. It is possible that I missed the end user cost as well

(2) The applicant shall be approved or denied within 30 days of the date of the application. If the application is denied, the department shall state the reasons for doing so and provide the applicant an appeal process to challenge that denial.

(g) The department shall recover the reasonable cost of administering this section by charging applicants an initial application and a renewal application fee.

(j) The department shall annually review and shall adjust the fees specified in subdivision (h) (g), if necessary, to fully fund, but not to exceed the reasonable costs of, the permit ammunition authorization program provided by this section, including the enforcement of this program.

So...
Year 1. Charge some not too obscene fee. Say, $50. Deny. Deny. Deny. Deny. Make folks spend money appealing. Fight each appeal all the way. Spend as much money as possible. Budget an obscene amount for enforcement. Spend. Spend. Spend.

Year 2. Add up all the expenditures from year 1. Divide by number of people who applied the previous year. Holy crap, it's $10,000 per applicant. Only 1000 people will apply if we do that. Yes, so we need to charge each of those people $100,000. Holy Crap! Nobody's going to pay that much! Good.

[TommyMN]

This is all about the ruling class preventing the poor from defending themselves. (read Hispanic, Black, ANY minority, and old people).

Jim Crow?

Real "Progressives" would never stand for it.

Kinda like voter ID keeps minorities and poor from voting?

Negative tower. Beleive the hype thou