Northfield man possession of a machine gun

[Deputyhiro]

Well that's pretty goddam dumb. To possess, let alone sell? He'll get what's coming to him.

[Ghost]

Update:

http://www.southernminn.com/northfield_ ... 3e7ab.html

The federal machine gun charge a Northfield man is facing came after he sold a fully-automatic Uzi to a confidential informant, according to a search warrant filed in Rice County.

Oops

[Rip Van Winkle]

To top it all off, he was a doper.

Through the investigation, the agent was also able to determine Lasley’s history of drug use, including marijuana, methamphetamine, heroin and possibly cocaine.

Good riddance I say.

[usnret]

The bigger question is where did this looser get a full auto UZI from.

[JJ]

The bigger question is where did this looser get a full auto UZI from.

He bought a NoDak spud receiver, a parts kit and assembled it. Ed graduated from tech school with a degree in advanced gunsmithing. He also has worked for at least one firearms manufacturer.

it isn't rocket surgery to convert many semi-auto variants over to FA. He knew what he was doing, and the fact that he ended up with a CI buying from him, leads me to believe that this may not have been the first one.

[Deputyhiro]

My guess is he has a few friends that are frantically exercising their chop saws.

[Ironbear]

My guess is he has a few friends that are frantically exercising their chop saws.

Or one of those boating accidents...

[Deputyhiro]

My guess is he has a few friends that are frantically exercising their chop saws.

Or one of those boating accidents...

Now that's funny. Forgot about the convenient "boating accidents "

[Tronster]

A slide-fire stock is a legal gray area in MN. It's not beyond reason that a person could be arrested and charged with unlawful possession of a trigger activator. It's also not beyond reason that a person could be found guilty as well, depending on how the case plays out. The question is, does a slide-fire stock fall within the definition of a Trigger Activator:

MN 609.67 Subd. 1(d) wrote:
"Trigger activator" means a removable manual or power driven trigger activating device constructed and designed so that, when attached to a firearm, the rate at which the trigger may be pulled increases and the rate of fire of the firearm increases to that of a machine gun.

So if a slide fire stock might be considered a "removable" trigger activator under MN law, would the same be true for a TAC-CON 3MR trigger that has an extremely short self resetting trigger that permits rapid fire? I've read that there is a learning curve to the TacCon and simply holding the trigger will not result multiple shots like an MG.

[MJY65]

I'm not saying that this is necessarily the case, just that it's a possibility. There have been people who have been convicted of possession of an unregistered machine gun for simply having a rifle that experienced a hammer-follow malfunction which resulted in more than one round being fired per trigger press.

Has that actually occurred in a case where the shooter hadn't deliberately altered the fire control mechanism?

[yukonjasper]

I'm not saying that this is necessarily the case, just that it's a possibility. There have been people who have been convicted of possession of an unregistered machine gun for simply having a rifle that experienced a hammer-follow malfunction which resulted in more than one round being fired per trigger press.

Has that actually occurred in a case where the shooter hadn't deliberately altered the fire control mechanism?

I'd like to see some evidence of that myself.

[JJ]

I'm not saying that this is necessarily the case, just that it's a possibility. There have been people who have been convicted of possession of an unregistered machine gun for simply having a rifle that experienced a hammer-follow malfunction which resulted in more than one round being fired per trigger press.

Has that actually occurred in a case where the shooter hadn't deliberately altered the fire control mechanism?

I'd like to see some evidence of that myself.

http://www.wnd.com/2008/11/80701/

The case arose when Olofson loaned an Olympic Arms AR-15 semi-automatic rifle to a friend, who fired it at a gun range. The weapon reportedly misfired, letting loose several shots at the same time, and drew the interest of authorities.

An initial investigation by the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms found it was not a machine gun. However, in a subsequent retest demanded by prosecutors, the agency determined it was a machine gun.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Olofson

[MJY65]

^^^^

I don't see anything in that case that says it was a worn part that caused the problem.

My hunch (that's all it is) in most of these cases is that someone took a stone to the sear and either deliberately or inadvertently created a partially functional FA. He started blabbing to his friends about the neat trick and got busted.

BTW: None of my semi auto ARs have a third selector position like the one in the case cited.

[george]

There was a man in Milwaukee who was prosecuted for a machine gun when his AR fired more than one round then jammed. The firearm was even under a recall and he was prosecuted anyway. It wasn't that many years ago as I recall.

Edit to add a link to this misfortune. http://www.wnd.com/2008/07/68590/

[MJY65]

There was a man in Milwaukee who was prosecuted for a machine gun when his AR fired more than one round then jammed. The firearm was even under a recall and he was prosecuted anyway. It wasn't that many years ago as I recall.

I think you are referring to the same case.