indian mounds park shooting

[yukonjasper]

One confirmed dead but not much else being released. Will be interesting to see this devolop. Wondering if this is a harbinger of what the summer has in store. We'll see. .......

[photogpat]

One confirmed dead but not much else being released. Will be interesting to see this devolop. Wondering if this is a harbinger of what the summer has in store. We'll see. .......

All I heard was "300 people assembled"...and I'm still trying to figure out why.

[Ghost]

http://www.twincities.com/2016/04/17/multiple-victims-in-st-paul-shooting-one-dead/

About 30 minutes after the shooting, a vehicle came to a screeching stop and a woman raced out of the vehicle toward the crime scene tape. She was restrained by officers but later managed to get away and raced under the crime scene tape screaming, “Where is my baby? Where is my baby?”

Police chased her and she collapsed on the ground, wailing. “Why is God punishing me? My baby got accepted to the University of Wisconsin. He was leaving. He was leaving in July.”

[yukonjasper]

Was this a Hmong celebration? I ask only because the Hmong people are one group that can organize 300 people without much effort. They also have young people involved in gang violence.

[Rip Van Winkle]

Seems to me, the above article leaves us with more questions than answers.

We know one man(?) is dead, but we don't know who.
The article headline states multiple people were injured, but nothing in the article about who or how many.
We don't know who, or how many were involved.

Yawn, move along nothing to see here.

[xd ED]

Was this a Hmong celebration? I ask only because the Hmong people are one group that can organize 300 people without much effort. They also have young people involved in gang violence.

I read a rumor that it was a fund raiser for legal expenses; but who knows.
The only people seen on the TV videos were cops and black folks

[MJY65]

Was this a Hmong celebration? I ask only because the Hmong people are one group that can organize 300 people without much effort. They also have young people involved in gang violence.

I suppose it's possible, but the verbiage used by the mother would suggest a different demographic.

[shooter115]

300 witnesses, yet "nobody saw nuttin".

[xd ED]

St. Paul police say they have arrested a suspect in a shooting that killed a man Sunday at Indian Mounds Regional Park.
Twenty-four-year-old Prince Kavanaugh Williams of Minneapolis was arrested on suspicion of murder, police said Monday morning.
Investigators have been working to piece together what led up to the shooting Sunday evening.

http://kstp.com/news/fatal-shooting-indian-mounds-park-st-paul/4108972/?cat=1

PRINCE KAVANAUGH WILLIAMS, d.o.b. 10/18/1991, meets criteria based on a 9 point criteria to be a gang member and a member of the East Side Boys, a criminal gang that meets the statutory definition of a gang in Minn. Stat. 609.229, Subd. 1. Denzel Jamal Jenkins, Markyce McAdory and Khari Adams, d.o.b.05/18/1994, also meet criteria for inclusion as gang members in the East Side Boys.
PRINCE KAVANAUGH WILLIAMS does not have a permit to carry a handgun in public. His possession of the 9mm Daewoo was for the benefit of, at the direction of, in association with, or motivated by involvement with a criminal gang.

http://kstp.com/kstpImages/repository/cs/files/Williams,%20Prince%2010_9_13.pdf

[yukonjasper]

Looks like we have some answers. Although not ideal or acceptable in any form, I prefer to know the actors and why something happened. I would never be involved in that sort of situation or be invited to that kind of gathering, so its less of an overt threat to me personally. If it's true that this was a criminal defense fund fundraiser, Predictable is preventable and if someone can't predict a high likelihood of violence arising out of that gathering so as to avoid that scene, I don't know what to say. Now if it were a random shooting happening at an event you wouldn't expect one to, that unpredictability gets a little scary. I would have been a little surprised if it were a Hmong gathering. My impression is that a higher level of respect for family and un-gang affiliated friends exists in the Hmong community - at least enough to not spray bullets that might strike bystanders.

(Says the White Suburban Corporate Type Guy who grew up on the mean streets of the Iron Range - so my opinion on this subject means bupkus - I did take 5-6 Psychology Courses for a Psych Minor at SCSU and a few of those were deviant psych and criminal psych - so, yeah I'm pretty much an expert.)

[Rip Van Winkle]

St. Paul police say they have arrested a suspect in a shooting that killed a man Sunday at Indian Mounds Regional Park.
Twenty-four-year-old Prince Kavanaugh Williams of Minneapolis was arrested on suspicion of murder, police said Monday morning.
Investigators have been working to piece together what led up to the shooting Sunday evening.

http://kstp.com/news/fatal-shooting-indian-mounds-park-st-paul/4108972/?cat=1

From the above article.

The Ramsey County Medical Examiner is working with the St. Paul Police Department to identify the man who was killed.

And in the other article, mama was screaming, "He was going off to collage"!

And people wonder why I refuse to read the newspaper.

[photogpat]

Looks like we have some answers. Although not ideal or acceptable in any form, I prefer to know the actors and why something happened. I would never be involved in that sort of situation or be invited to that kind of gathering, so its less of an overt threat to me personally. If it's true that this was a criminal defense fund fundraiser, Predictable is preventable and if someone can't predict a high likelihood of violence arising out of that gathering so as to avoid that scene, I don't know what to say. Now if it were a random shooting happening at an event you wouldn't expect one to, that unpredictability gets a little scary. I would have been a little surprised if it were a Hmong gathering. My impression is that a higher level of respect for family and un-gang affiliated friends exists in the Hmong community - at least enough to not spray bullets that might strike bystanders.

(Says the White Suburban Corporate Type Guy who grew up on the mean streets of the Iron Range - so my opinion on this subject means bupkus - I did take 5-6 Psychology Courses for a Psych Minor at SCSU and a few of those were deviant psych and criminal psych - so, yeah I'm pretty much an expert.)

Not a Hmong gathering...BBQ fundraiser to raise money for medical expenses by a different social group of people seems to be the consensus now...

[yukonjasper]

Thanks Pat. Too much coffee this morning, I'll let the media catch up instead of hypothesizing. Another mystery is the Lino Lakes "Rodeo" brawl - there appears to be more to that story as well..............................

[mmcnx2]

Appears he may have been 'know' to law enforcement.

http://kstp.com/kstpImages/repository/c ... 0_9_13.pdf

[Lumpy]

[sarcasm]In response, a buy-back program was announced to get guns off the streets.[/sarcasm]