9th Circuit rules against 2nd amendment right to carry

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9th Circuit rules against 2nd amendment right to carry

Postby mrp on Thu Jun 09, 2016 10:44 am

https://www.firearmspolicy.org/legal/br ... st-peruta/

The en banc court affirmed the district courts’ judgments and held that there is no Second Amendment right for members of the general public to carry concealed firearms in public.


Well, dang. But...

"The en banc court stated that there may or may not be a Second Amendment right for a member of the general public to carry a firearm openly in public, but the Supreme Court has not answered that question."
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Re: 9th Circuit rules against 2nd amendment right to carry

Postby Bearcatrp on Thu Jun 09, 2016 1:36 pm

Was checking to see if anyone posted this. Lets hope its over turned on appeal or this will spread across all states like wild fire.
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Re: 9th Circuit rules against 2nd amendment right to carry

Postby CROSBYK2 on Thu Jun 09, 2016 2:18 pm

I think its possible that this will be fast tracked to the supreme court where there will be a 4 to 4 tie vote which means the lower courts decision stands. Very smart move by the anti's.
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Re: 9th Circuit rules against 2nd amendment right to carry

Postby Bearcatrp on Thu Jun 09, 2016 2:31 pm

Can the NRA wait until the next president appoints a judge or are they limited in time to appeal. It will be a tie vote if it is appealed.
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Re: 9th Circuit rules against 2nd amendment right to carry

Postby LarryP on Thu Jun 09, 2016 3:21 pm

This is a disaster. The end of carry is in sight.
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Re: 9th Circuit rules against 2nd amendment right to carry

Postby bstrawse on Thu Jun 09, 2016 3:49 pm

LarryP wrote:This is a disaster. The end of carry is in sight.


Why do you say that?

There are two circuits that have ruled the opposite - so there's a split of opinion amongst the circuits.
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Re: 9th Circuit rules against 2nd amendment right to carry

Postby harryset on Thu Jun 09, 2016 8:58 pm

Seems like if this stands, it would make open carry law of the land.
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Postby sprigfan on Fri Jun 10, 2016 8:29 am

The ruling stinks for sure, but some people need to take a breath.

The ruling did not outlaw concealed carry, it stated that the 2nd amendment does not guarantee the right to do so. The decision to actually outlaw it is still up to your state. And unless the Supreme Court agrees, the decision only applies to the states under the 9th circuit.
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Postby xd ED on Fri Jun 10, 2016 8:40 am

sprigfan wrote:The ruling stinks for sure, but some people need to take a breath.

The ruling did not outlaw concealed carry, it stated that the 2nd amendment does not guarantee the right to do so. The decision to actually outlaw it is still up to your state. And unless the Supreme Court agrees, the decision only applies to the states under the 9th circuit.


Seems to me it can only potentially effect those few states with 'may issue' carry laws. ...about 8-9 in number, I believe...

Of course, there'll be some tortured arguments by the antis as to why this invalidates every 2A right currently recognized.
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Postby photogpat on Fri Jun 10, 2016 8:51 am

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Re: 9th Circuit rules against 2nd amendment right to carry

Postby Rip Van Winkle on Fri Jun 10, 2016 11:00 am

This should be a wake up call to all who treasure the 2nd Amendment. We are 1 vote on the Supreme Court away from overturning Heller and Miller.

Who you vote for (or against) in this election is going to effect the court for a generation to come.
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Re: 9th Circuit rules against 2nd amendment right to carry

Postby Holland&Holland on Fri Jun 10, 2016 1:13 pm

Rip Van Winkle wrote:This should be a wake up call to all who treasure the 2nd Amendment. We are 1 vote on the Supreme Court away from overturning Heller and Miller.

Who you vote for (or against) in this election is going to effect the court for a generation to come.


Well said. I think we all are aware of how much support Hillary has for gun rights.
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Re: 9th Circuit rules against 2nd amendment right to carry

Postby MJY65 on Fri Jun 10, 2016 1:24 pm

Rip Van Winkle wrote:This should be a wake up call to all who treasure the 2nd Amendment. We are 1 vote on the Supreme Court away from overturning Heller and Miller.

Who you vote for (or against) in this election is going to effect the court for a generation to come.


I hope our gun owning friends on the Range will help us out this time. The core of Hennepin and Ramsey counties are probably beyond hope, but maybe we could flip the state red if the old union/Democrat loyalties up there would soften a bit.
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Re: 9th Circuit rules against 2nd amendment right to carry

Postby Holland&Holland on Fri Jun 10, 2016 1:30 pm

MJY65 wrote:
Rip Van Winkle wrote:This should be a wake up call to all who treasure the 2nd Amendment. We are 1 vote on the Supreme Court away from overturning Heller and Miller.

Who you vote for (or against) in this election is going to effect the court for a generation to come.


I hope our gun owning friends on the Range will help us out this time. The core of Hennepin and Ramsey counties are probably beyond hope, but maybe we could flip the state red if the old union/Democrat loyalties up there would soften a bit.


Especially since their Dems do not seem to be really doing anything to help them out up there. One would think it would become pretty obvious...
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