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Re: Philando Castile case. Officer charged

PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 4:12 pm
by MJY65
jdege wrote:I don't see how this could have possibly been a justified shooting, unless Castile did something astoundingly stupid.


I'll have to admit: As a PTC holder, this case has me a bit spooked.

Re: Philando Castile case. Officer charged

PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 4:19 pm
by jdege
MJY65 wrote:
jdege wrote:I don't see how this could have possibly been a justified shooting, unless Castile did something astoundingly stupid.


I'll have to admit: As a PTC holder, this case has me a bit spooked.


And given Joe Olson's experience, you have a right to be.
http://www.startribune.com/professor-st-anthony-police-chief-dismissed-plea-to-improve-traffic-stop-training/386079641/

Re: Philando Castile case. Officer charged

PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 4:20 pm
by BU1
Seems simple to me. Keep your hands on the steering wheel until told to do otherwise and you won't get shot.

Re: Philando Castile case. Officer charged

PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 4:23 pm
by MJY65
BU1 wrote:Seems simple to me. Keep your hands on the steering wheel until told to do otherwise and you won't get shot.



Tough to reach your license with hands on the wheel. I guess I'll have to get that out ahead of time and have it prominently displayed on the dash.

Re: Philando Castile case. Officer charged

PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 5:30 pm
by Sorcerer
Don't be under the influence of drugs or alcohol while carrying. You may be able to comprehend what's being sead to you. And STFU.

Re: Philando Castile case. Officer charged

PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 5:44 pm
by yukonjasper
Not excusing the officer at all and if hands were on the gun he did what he should, but he probably overreacted. I do think Mr. CASTILLO didn't follow instructions maybe because he was a little too comfortable with getting pulled over and/or high on pot.

I wasn't in.the court room or on the scene so only my opinion. I assume transcripts will be made available.

Anyway you slice it, the trouble makers will only hear what they want to hear. Be safe out there.

Re: Philando Castile case. Officer charged

PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 5:47 pm
by unfitmother
Why is the only advice being given to the guy who is dead? Why no advice for the cop who shot a permit holder?

Re: Philando Castile case. Officer charged

PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 5:55 pm
by Rodentman
His permit is irrelevant to the matter at hand. Castile said he was carrying, the LEO pulled his gun and told Castile not to reach for it, several times. Castile reached for something, but he reached. Who was his instructor?

Re: Philando Castile case. Officer charged

PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 6:08 pm
by Ghost
Rodentman wrote:His permit is irrelevant to the matter at hand. Castile said he was carrying, the LEO pulled his gun and told Castile not to reach for it, several times. Castile reached for something, but he reached. Who was his instructor?

This is my thought on it. If he indeed needed to reach for identification he needed to do it under the direction of the officer.

Re: Philando Castile case. Officer charged

PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 6:13 pm
by unfitmother
Rodentman, the sequence of events you wrote are a little out of order. Read the transcript from the dashcam footage, and Yanez's partner's statements after the shooting; he heard the shots before he knew Yanez had pulled his gun.

https://www.ramseycounty.us/sites/default/files/County%20Attorney/Yanez%20Jeronimo%2011%2016%2016.pdf

Re: Philando Castile case. Officer charged

PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 8:32 pm
by xd ED
MJY65 wrote:
jdege wrote:I don't see how this could have possibly been a justified shooting, unless Castile did something astoundingly stupid.


I'll have to admit: As a PTC holder, this case has me a bit spooked.


Given his behavioral choices and habits, I find no more of a connection or relevance to Castille because he was once issued a carry permit than I do because we both have a drivers license.

Re: Philando Castile case. Officer charged

PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 9:24 pm
by Ghost
unfitmother wrote:Rodentman, the sequence of events you wrote are a little out of order. Read the transcript from the dashcam footage, and Yanez's partner's statements after the shooting; he heard the shots before he knew Yanez had pulled his gun.

https://www.ramseycounty.us/sites/default/files/County%20Attorney/Yanez%20Jeronimo%2011%2016%2016.pdf

When or how fast the officer pulled his gun is irrelevant to if he had a reason. The jury decided he did.

Re: Philando Castile case. Officer charged

PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 9:38 pm
by Ghost
Link to tonight's extra curricular activities on I94
https://livestream.com/accounts/12767816/events/7508326

Re: Philando Castile case. Officer charged

PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 9:46 pm
by xd ED
Ghost wrote:Link to tonight's extra curricular activities on I94
https://livestream.com/accounts/12767816/events/7508326


There's people trapped in cars, and the media describes it as 'peaceful'.

Re: Philando Castile case. Officer charged

PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 9:50 pm
by Ghost
xd ED wrote:
Ghost wrote:Link to tonight's extra curricular activities on I94
https://livestream.com/accounts/12767816/events/7508326


There's people trapped in cars, and the media describes it as 'peaceful'.

The media is fake news