Criminal Complaint in the Rochester Shooting

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Re: Criminal Complaint in the Rochester Shooting

Postby Holland&Holland on Wed Oct 23, 2019 3:11 pm

dismal wrote:Mistrial yet again, yet to be seen if they try him a third time.

https://www.postbulletin.com/news/publi ... 133ba.html

Interseting
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Re: Criminal Complaint in the Rochester Shooting

Postby xd ED on Wed Oct 23, 2019 10:17 pm

Holland&Holland wrote:
dismal wrote:Mistrial yet again, yet to be seen if they try him a third time.

https://www.postbulletin.com/news/publi ... 133ba.html

Interseting


Indeed.

At what point does the state's inability to convince a jury to convict someone, become a de facto acquittal?
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Re: Criminal Complaint in the Rochester Shooting

Postby Rip Van Winkle on Thu Oct 24, 2019 5:08 am

xd ED wrote:At what point does the state's inability to convince a jury to convict someone, become a de facto acquittal?

Perhaps a better question is, at what point does it become a political vendetta?
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Re: Criminal Complaint in the Rochester Shooting

Postby xd ED on Thu Oct 24, 2019 7:01 am

Rip Van Winkle wrote:
xd ED wrote:At what point does the state's inability to convince a jury to convict someone, become a de facto acquittal?

Perhaps a better question is, at what point does it become a political vendetta?


That ship long ago sailed.
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Criminal Complaint in the Rochester Shooting

Postby dismal on Thu Oct 24, 2019 8:41 am

Apparently mistrial doesn’t trigger double jeopardy, so they can play the game until they get the results that they want (or he does get acquitted).

Based on the prosecutor’s comments in the news, I suspect that he’s feeling pressure to try the case again. But we’ll see next month.
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Re: Criminal Complaint in the Rochester Shooting

Postby Holland&Holland on Thu Oct 24, 2019 9:11 am

dismal wrote:Apparently mistrial doesn’t trigger double jeopardy, so they can play the game until they get the results that they want (or he does get acquitted).

Based on the prosecutor’s comments in the news, I suspect that he’s feeling pressure to try the case again. But we’ll see next month.

Correct.
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Re: Criminal Complaint in the Rochester Shooting

Postby MJY65 on Thu Oct 24, 2019 9:26 am

I rarely travel in Downtown MSP, but have always considered how totally screwed a middle aged white guy would be if he had to shoot an urban youth in self defense.
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Re: Criminal Complaint in the Rochester Shooting

Postby Holland&Holland on Thu Oct 24, 2019 9:38 am

MJY65 wrote:I rarely travel in Downtown MSP, but have always considered how totally screwed a middle aged white guy would be if he had to shoot an urban youth in self defense.

You mean a raging racist shooting a felon just turning his life around?
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Re: Criminal Complaint in the Rochester Shooting

Postby MJY65 on Thu Oct 24, 2019 1:44 pm

Holland&Holland wrote:
MJY65 wrote:I rarely travel in Downtown MSP, but have always considered how totally screwed a middle aged white guy would be if he had to shoot an urban youth in self defense.

You mean a raging racist shooting a felon just turning his life around?



Sounds about right. I think that being from outside the Metro would confer that status upon me automatically.
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Re: Criminal Complaint in the Rochester Shooting

Postby Holland&Holland on Thu Oct 24, 2019 9:26 pm

MJY65 wrote:
Holland&Holland wrote:
MJY65 wrote:I rarely travel in Downtown MSP, but have always considered how totally screwed a middle aged white guy would be if he had to shoot an urban youth in self defense.

You mean a raging racist shooting a felon just turning his life around?



Sounds about right. I think that being from outside the Metro would confer that status upon me automatically.

Are you a white, middle aged, male? Yup.
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Criminal Complaint in the Rochester Shooting

Postby dismal on Tue Nov 26, 2019 8:06 am

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Re: Criminal Complaint in the Rochester Shooting

Postby xd ED on Tue Nov 26, 2019 8:31 am




In a statement announcing the dismissal, Olmsted County Attorney Mark Ostrem called the decision to drop the charges “difficult.”

“It is a difficult decision, telling a family we cannot move forward to bring justice for a loved one’s death,” Ostrem wrote, adding the move does not dismiss the validity of the case or establish Weiss’s guilt or innocence.

“I believe strongly that Mr. Weiss’s decision to shoot Muhammed Rahim was unjustified," Ostrem wrote. "The law requires that deadly force be employed only after attempts to avoid danger have been made and there is no other option.”


If the prosecutor truly believes, based on the law, and facts presented, that the guy is guilty, why did he twice fail to convict? And why then is he foregoing his duty as a prosecuting attorney?
Or could it be that his personal and/ or professional assessment is based on an agenda, as opposed to the law, and reality of the situation, and only his concern for his track record is in play?
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Re: Criminal Complaint in the Rochester Shooting

Postby Ghost on Tue Nov 26, 2019 9:02 am

xd ED wrote:Or could it be that his personal and/ or professional assessment is based on an agenda, as opposed to the law, and reality of the situation, and only his concern for his track record is in play?

Nah
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Re: Criminal Complaint in the Rochester Shooting

Postby yukonjasper on Tue Nov 26, 2019 10:46 am

I'm glad the system didn't bend to the personal biases of this DBag. Just because he believes it to be true, it cannot be proven and that has been confirmed......twice......sheesh, go join an organization and protest honestly and openly, don't hide in the shadow of your office. The virtue signaling is ridiculous. He should be removed from office since he doesn't appear to be able to bring any objectivity to the job.
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Re: Criminal Complaint in the Rochester Shooting

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