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Trump Is Caving In

PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 7:45 pm
by LarryP
He supports taking a gun away from a person first,
Even supporting Diane Feinsteins Assault weapons ban. plus raising age limit
Frustrating

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/watch-diann ... apons-ban/

Re: Trump Is Caving In

PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 8:10 pm
by Ghost
Assault weapons ban?

Trump Is Caving In

PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 8:19 pm
by INOR
Look, I’m probably the biggest trump critic here. But his reactions and actions are really no different than what what any other Republican president would be right now. This last shooting has been a ******* and the kids have moved the needle on the conversation. There’s a lot of pressure to do something (anything) right now. So I wouldn’t be too surprised. (Yeah Ghost...I just defended your boy. :))


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Trump Is Caving In

PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 8:24 pm
by goett047
We need to hold the line. Compromise now would be a disaster. They want to outright ban guns. Compromise is negotiating to delay the inevitable.

Re: Trump Is Caving In

PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 8:38 pm
by Ghost
goett047 wrote:We need to hold the line. Compromise now would be a disaster. They want to outright ban guns. Compromise is negotiating to delay the inevitable.

It makes no sense to give in anything. We have the numbers.

Re: Trump Is Caving In

PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 8:39 pm
by Ghost
INOR wrote:Look, I’m probably the biggest trump critic here. But his reactions and actions are really no different than what what any other Republican president would be right now. This last shooting has been a ******* and the kids have moved the needle on the conversation. There’s a lot of pressure to do something (anything) right now. So I wouldn’t be too surprised. (Yeah Ghost...I just defended your boy. :))


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I commend you

Re: Trump Is Caving In

PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 8:44 pm
by Holland&Holland
INOR wrote:Look, I’m probably the biggest trump critic here. But his reactions and actions are really no different than what what any other Republican president would be right now. This last shooting has been a ******* and the kids have moved the needle on the conversation. There’s a lot of pressure to do something (anything) right now. So I wouldn’t be too surprised. (Yeah Ghost...I just defended your boy. :))


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So what is different about this time? When did highschool kids get such power that Sandyhook did not. That I am still trying to understand.

Trump Is Caving In

PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 8:46 pm
by INOR
Grade school kids can’t speak well or mobilize. Teenagers are really good with social action. Always have been.


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Re: Trump Is Caving In

PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 8:52 pm
by Holland&Holland
INOR wrote:Grade school kids can’t speak well or mobilize. Teenagers are really good with social action. Always have been.


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I dunno, why then is the drinking age still 21 and pot not legal.

Re: Trump Is Caving In

PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 8:57 pm
by xd ED
Holland&Holland wrote:
INOR wrote:Look, I’m probably the biggest trump critic here. But his reactions and actions are really no different than what what any other Republican president would be right now. This last shooting has been a ******* and the kids have moved the needle on the conversation. There’s a lot of pressure to do something (anything) right now. So I wouldn’t be too surprised. (Yeah Ghost...I just defended your boy. :))


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So what is different about this time? When did highschool kids get such power that Sandyhook did not. That I am still trying to understand.


High school vs grade school;
The victims, and their classmates turned spokesmen...er spokespersons are old enough to be coached/ swayed by the media. They can read scripted lines and because of their age, appear authoritative, and as reasonable as most people on TV.
Wasn't it about 3 weeks ago his same demographic was a concern because they have soap eating contests?

Trump Is Caving In

PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 9:01 pm
by goett047
Any chance he’s deliberately telling them to write a bill so unpalatable that it backfires on them. If you watch the meeting with Diane Feinstein he gives into an “assault weapons” ban without blinking.

Re: Trump Is Caving In

PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 9:21 pm
by Ghost
Here’s the people we are up against


Re: Trump Is Caving In

PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 9:36 pm
by xd ED
Ghost wrote:Here’s the people we are up against



Un-effin-believable

Trump Is Caving In

PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 9:56 pm
by goett047
Since they’re doing the whole “listen to the children” routine maybe we should be packing the capitol with youth shooters, lots of trapshooters in high schools across the state right now.

Re: Trump Is Caving In

PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 10:16 pm
by Holland&Holland
goett047 wrote:Since they’re doing the whole “listen to the children” routine maybe we should be packing the capitol with youth shooters, lots of trapshooters in high schools across the state right now.

12,000 last year