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Re: Breaking News: ATF Is Classifying .50 Cal Bolt Action AR Upp

Postby Sigfan220 on Fri Aug 03, 2018 12:07 pm

Holland&Holland wrote:Is this really that shocking? If you try to buy a stripped bolt action receiver from Brownells it is considered the firearm and must go through an FFL.


Because a bolt action may be fired without the stock, the trigger is integral to the barreled action. An AR15 may not be fired without a lower, the trigger is housed in the lower. The ATF classifies an AR15 lower as a firearm, the upper is just a part. Two completely different animals, no comparison between the two. A more realistic comparison would be a pistol slide and barrel combo. Under this thinking if you were to order a new pistol slide and barrel they would be a firearm and would need a 4473. This is completely insane, you guys should be more upset. Very sad.
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Re: Breaking News: ATF Is Classifying .50 Cal Bolt Action AR Upp

Postby Holland&Holland on Fri Aug 03, 2018 1:02 pm

Sigfan220 wrote:
Holland&Holland wrote:Is this really that shocking? If you try to buy a stripped bolt action receiver from Brownells it is considered the firearm and must go through an FFL.


Because a bolt action may be fired without the stock, the trigger is integral to the barreled action. An AR15 may not be fired without a lower, the trigger is housed in the lower. The ATF classifies an AR15 lower as a firearm, the upper is just a part. Two completely different animals, no comparison between the two. A more realistic comparison would be a pistol slide and barrel combo. Under this thinking if you were to order a new pistol slide and barrel they would be a firearm and would need a 4473. This is completely insane, you guys should be more upset. Very sad.


Never said I supported it, just said it does not surprise me that when 2 "parts" that traditionally have been treated as a gun by your benevolent overlords are attached together, you have 2 "guns".
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Re: Breaking News: ATF Is Classifying .50 Cal Bolt Action AR Upp

Postby hammAR on Fri Aug 03, 2018 6:46 pm

Holland&Holland wrote:................ just said it does not surprise me that when 2 "parts" that traditionally have been treated as a gun by your benevolent overlords are attached together, you have 2 "guns".

Sounds right per what "they" are stating...............effen new math :hammer:
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