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every step forward seems to get a step or two backwards

Postby LarryFlew on Fri Aug 03, 2018 11:10 am

More U.S. states join lawsuit over online 3-D gun blueprints.
https://www.compuserve.com/news/story/0002/20180803/KBN1KO253_2

Lawsuits against the admin???????

U.S. appeals court rejects challenges to California gun laws

https://www.compuserve.com/news/story/0002/20180803/KBN1KO1XU_3

Even more stupid. What courts think these are constitutionally OK????????
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Re: every step forward seems to get a step or two backwards

Postby Holland&Holland on Fri Aug 03, 2018 11:45 am

So for me to file a lawsuit I have to show actual damages. What damages are the states claiming at this point?
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Re: every step forward seems to get a step or two backwards

Postby Sigfan220 on Fri Aug 03, 2018 12:11 pm

It would be a lot easier to get a gun and file the serial number off than to buy a computer and 3D printer then learn how to print parts. I don't get what people are so worked up about. People have been making guns at home for decades. Not to mention most 3D printed guns are completely impractical when compared to modern weapons.
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Postby MJY65 on Fri Aug 03, 2018 12:13 pm

^^^^^

I agree. The ones I've seen look like a single shot plastic brick.
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Re: every step forward seems to get a step or two backwards

Postby Holland&Holland on Fri Aug 03, 2018 1:00 pm

MJY65 wrote:^^^^^

I agree. The ones I've seen look like a single shot plastic brick.


So they are Glocks then? :P
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Re: every step forward seems to get a step or two backwards

Postby Rip Van Winkle on Fri Aug 03, 2018 2:27 pm

LarryFlew wrote:U.S. appeals court rejects challenges to California gun laws[/b]
https://www.compuserve.com/news/story/0002/20180803/KBN1KO1XU_3

Even more stupid. What courts think these are constitutionally OK????????

Let me get this straight. According to the 9th circus, laws restricting magazine capacity are unconstitutional, but laws requiring chamber indicators and magazine disconnectors are. Likewise laws restricting concealed carry are Constitutional, but laws restricting open carry are not. :doh:
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every step forward seems to get a step or two backwards

Postby INOR on Fri Aug 03, 2018 5:15 pm

Holland&Holland wrote:
MJY65 wrote:^^^^^

I agree. The ones I've seen look like a single shot plastic brick.


So they are Glocks then? :P


Lol.




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Re: every step forward seems to get a step or two backwards

Postby Ghost on Fri Aug 03, 2018 5:21 pm

Holland&Holland wrote:
MJY65 wrote:^^^^^

I agree. The ones I've seen look like a single shot plastic brick.


So they are Glocks then? :P

Better than those pot metal offerings. ;)
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Re: every step forward seems to get a step or two backwards

Postby Lumpy on Fri Aug 03, 2018 7:04 pm

Sigfan220 wrote:It would be a lot easier to get a gun and file the serial number off than to buy a computer and 3D printer then learn how to print parts. I don't get what people are so worked up about. People have been making guns at home for decades. Not to mention most 3D printed guns are completely impractical when compared to modern weapons.
Psst! There are several methods now for recovering the serial numbers from filed or melted off serial numbers.

3D printers are much easier for amateurs to use but currently produce crap guns. A CNC milling machine can produce quality parts but requires more knowledge of metallurgy than most people have. The uproar is over when eventually we'll have the ease of use of a 3D printer combined with the quality of a milling machine's output.

I'm not worried about banning. Let 'em. There are people whose hobby is hacking through every possible software and hardware barrier placed in their way. Eventually there'll be 3D printers with any government-mandated banware/snitchware purged out them, and banned plans circulating all over the dark net. The government couldn't eliminate bathtub gin let alone narcotics, 3D printed guns will be the same.
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Re: every step forward seems to get a step or two backwards

Postby Lumpy on Fri Aug 03, 2018 7:07 pm

Rip Van Winkle wrote:Let me get this straight. According to the 9th circus, laws restricting magazine capacity are unconstitutional, but laws requiring chamber indicators and magazine disconnectors are. Likewise laws restricting concealed carry are Constitutional, but laws restricting open carry are not. :doh:


As I understand it, the ruling is that it can be legal for a state to ban concealing a gun, but not carry altogether. That sorta kinda makes sense.

ETA: of course on balance the whole ruling sucks and will go to the US Supreme Court- hopefully after three or four Trump appointees are on the bench.
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Re: every step forward seems to get a step or two backwards

Postby Holland&Holland on Fri Aug 03, 2018 10:34 pm

Ghost wrote:
Holland&Holland wrote:
MJY65 wrote:^^^^^

I agree. The ones I've seen look like a single shot plastic brick.


So they are Glocks then? :P

Better than those pot metal offerings. ;)

I thought we had a very impassioned member who took care of that for us.
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