N.J. Police Refuse to Rule Out Door-to-Door Disarmament

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N.J. Police Refuse to Rule Out Door-to-Door Disarmament

Postby jdege on Thu Dec 13, 2018 8:06 pm

N.J. State Police Refuse to Rule Out Door-to-Door Disarmament
https://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/constitution/item/30893-nj-state-police-refuse-to-rule-out-door-to-door-disarmament
Breitbart News reports that the New Jersey State Police have “refused to rule out house-to-house enforcement of the state’s ‘high capacity’ magazine ban,” in correspondence from the Garden State’s law-enforcement agency to the news organization.

As of December 11, it is a fourth-degree felony in New Jersey to possess a “large capacity ammunition magazine,” which is defined as “a box, drum, tube or other container which is capable of holding more than 10 rounds of ammunition to be fed continuously and directly therefrom into a semi-automatic firearm.”
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Re: N.J. Police Refuse to Rule Out Door-to-Door Disarmament

Postby Ghost on Thu Dec 13, 2018 8:11 pm

Good luck to them
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Postby BigDog58 on Thu Dec 13, 2018 8:32 pm

When they start the Police State tactics, I wonder how many civilians and how many officers will end up shot?
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Re: N.J. Police Refuse to Rule Out Door-to-Door Disarmament

Postby xd ED on Thu Dec 13, 2018 8:56 pm

One has to wonder what: "...house-to-house enforcement.." actually means;

...going down the block, knocking on doors, one after another? ...no one is required to answer their door, or submit to a random dwelling search.

To completely search a house for something as small as a pistol magazine, you'd literally have to destroy it down to the framing...even a cursory search would take an hour.

Where would the manpower come?

Interesting (to put it most mildly) situation to watch
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Postby Grayskies on Thu Dec 13, 2018 9:35 pm

Wonder if this would violate the constitution?
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Postby Holland&Holland on Thu Dec 13, 2018 9:40 pm

Grayskies wrote:Wonder if this would violate the constitution?

Would require a warrant.
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Postby Grayskies on Thu Dec 13, 2018 9:46 pm

Holland&Holland wrote:
Grayskies wrote:Wonder if this would violate the constitution?

Would require a warrant.

I meant the 5th amendment "nor shall private property be taken for public use without just compensation."

Sorry I was not more clear.
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Postby Holland&Holland on Thu Dec 13, 2018 10:26 pm

Grayskies wrote:
Holland&Holland wrote:
Grayskies wrote:Wonder if this would violate the constitution?

Would require a warrant.

I meant the 5th amendment "nor shall private property be taken for public use without just compensation."

Sorry I was not more clear.

Is it public use?
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Postby Grayskies on Thu Dec 13, 2018 10:33 pm

Don't know, I am not great at the constitution.
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Postby Rip Van Winkle on Fri Dec 14, 2018 5:40 am

Grayskies wrote:Don't know, I am not great at the constitution.

Neither are liberals.
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Postby Ghost on Fri Dec 14, 2018 5:51 am

Rip Van Winkle wrote:
Grayskies wrote:Don't know, I am not great at the constitution.

Neither are liberals.

Zing
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Postby Rip Van Winkle on Fri Dec 14, 2018 6:11 am

My guess is this will just be another selectively enforced law used to keep the peasant class in line.
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Postby Ghost on Fri Dec 14, 2018 6:14 am

Rip Van Winkle wrote:My guess is this will just be another selectively enforced law used to keep the peasant class in line.

Agree
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Re: N.J. Police Refuse to Rule Out Door-to-Door Disarmament

Postby MJY65 on Fri Dec 14, 2018 6:21 am

xd ED wrote:One has to wonder what: "...house-to-house enforcement.." actually means;

...going down the block, knocking on doors, one after another? ...no one is required to answer their door, or submit to a random dwelling search.

To completely search a house for something as small as a pistol magazine, you'd literally have to destroy it down to the framing...even a cursory search would take an hour.

Where would the manpower come?

Interesting (to put it most mildly) situation to watch


They aren't going to tear every 90 year old grandmother's house apart looking for every last magazine in the state any more than they do with drugs. They'll get "probable cause" through an anonymous tip, a traffic stop in which the driver has something else they don't like, etc. There will be dramatic no knock raids with heroic displays of the 15 round G19 magazines laid out on the bed followed by declarations of victory for "getting them off the street". They force gun owners a little farther into the dark corners with every step.
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Re: N.J. Police Refuse to Rule Out Door-to-Door Disarmament

Postby yukonjasper on Fri Dec 14, 2018 9:10 am

I guess the State of New Jersey has decided they want to test the resolve of Gun owners. I can't imagine door to door going well, more likely will be a surgical approach with its foundations being a database of some kind being made available "for the good od public safety and to potect our brave Law Enforcement officers who are just doing their job ". If we save just one life.............
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