How Banks Unwittingly Finance Mass Shootings

[Ghost]

To much business has become political and it seems that the Left wants it even more political. I see this going really bad places.

I see this as not having their expected results.

I see the left trying to use companies like these to do what they have been unable to do through government. To shut down dissenting speech and control peoples lives.

And create new competition for those companies

[Rip Van Winkle]

I see the left trying to use companies like these to do what they have been unable to do through government. To shut down dissenting speech and control peoples lives.

And create new competition for those companies

The problem is the left is using the regulatory power of government to quash any and all business which doesn't bend to its will.

See New York as an example.

[Jackpine Savage]

The problem is the left is using the regulatory power of government to quash any and all business which doesn't bend to its will.

See New York as an example.

Yep, Obama started Operation Choke Point to harass banks into dropping firearms and other businesses he didn't like. The OP's article is the communists way of attempting the same through public intimidation.

John Farnam just sent out a quip today on the subject.

26 Dec 18

The new “Avarnas”

The movement, propagated by amoral leftists/Marxists, to marginalize American gun owners continues to aggressively recruit the finance industry.

Their obvious goal is to stigmatize gun owners, so that we occupy the lowest possible status-rung in American society, in much the same way as do “avarnas/dalits” (untouchables) in modern-day India.

In a recent NYT editorial, the author implores the banking and credit-card industries to treat all who would legally purchase guns, ammunition, and virtually all accessories like diseased outcasts!

Accordingly, leftists want all “suspicious” firearms transactions “flagged,” not by BATF, but by banks and credit-card companies, so that names of persons thus identified will, without their knowledge, go on a “List.” They want the finance industry to start “informing” on gun owners!

What makes a gun-purchaser “suspicious?”

Of course, to leftists, all private gun purchasers are “suspicious,” and all would-be gun owners thus need to be “investigated,” and their names put on the “List” mentioned above.

They want to make the entire finance industry so frightened to have anything to do with us, that eventually all private gun owners will be unable to transact business, followed by retailers, and manufacturers.

In NYS, several state-level politicians (all Democrats, of course) are proposing that a person’s social-media record be “inspected” before he can purchase a gun or ammunition.

When asked what in a person’s social media would represent a “red flag,” they are unable to answer.

They obviously want to have the ability to arbitrarily prevent political opponents from buying guns, while they themselves are never required to persuasively articulate any legitimate rationale.

NY’s governor has already stated publically that non-liberals are unwelcome in his state. Presumably, that includes gun owners!

After the first of the year, we’ll see this movement accelerate, to the cheers and unconditional support of the liberal media. As always, our side will find it nearly impossible to find a microphone!

Big retailers will continue to be put under enormous pressure to stop selling guns and ammunition.

Dick’s and some others have already caved. Dick’s, for one, is paying a terrible price in lost business as a
result. I’m fresh out of sympathy!

“Common-sense” restrictions on our liberty, particularly when leftists dishonestly insist that they only want to ban “certain types” of guns, (from us, never themselves), will, without delay, morph into a ban on all guns, as it has in the UK.

Please don’t insult my intelligence by arguing otherwise!

When Marxists (masquerading as “liberals”) can’t “legislate” our freedom away, they will try to “regulate” it away, or as noted above, “intimidate” it away!

“In my study of Communist societies, I came to the conclusion that the purpose of Communist propaganda is not to persuade, nor convince, nor even inform, but to humiliate; and therefore, the less it corresponds to reality, the better.

When people are forced to remain silent when they are being told the most obvious lies, or worse, when they are forced to repeat the lies themselves, they lose once and for all, their sense of personal dignity and decency.

One's standing to resist anything is thus eroded, eventually destroyed.

A society of emasculated liars is easy to control!

I think when you examine ‘political correctness,’ it has the same effect, and is intended to!”

Theodore Dalrymple

It is also necessary that these formally proud citizens of our Republic, now pitiable emasculated liars, be first
forcibly disarmed!

/John

[jdege]

Of course, to leftists, all private gun purchasers are “suspicious,” and all would-be gun owners thus need to be “investigated,” and their names put on the “List” mentioned above.

Nonsense.

To leftists, any cash withdrawal is suspicious, since it might be to finance a private firearm sale.

There's a reason they want a cash-free society.

[Ghost]

Of course, to leftists, all private gun purchasers are “suspicious,” and all would-be gun owners thus need to be “investigated,” and their names put on the “List” mentioned above.

Nonsense.

To leftists, any cash withdrawal is suspicious, since it might be to finance a private firearm sale.

There's a reason they want a cash-free society.

I do know of an FFL that got put through the ringer for too much cash on hand. Not sure what all came out of it in the end.

[Jackpine Savage]

Of course, to leftists, all private gun purchasers are “suspicious,” and all would-be gun owners thus need to be “investigated,” and their names put on the “List” mentioned above.

Nonsense.

To leftists, any cash withdrawal is suspicious, since it might be to finance a private firearm sale.

There's a reason they want a cash-free society.

I don't think those two thoughts are mutually exclusive.

China is paving the way toward utopia.

China has started ranking citizens with a creepy 'social credit' system — here's what you can do wrong, and the embarrassing, demeaning ways they can punish you

The Chinese state is setting up a vast ranking system system that will monitor the behavior of its enormous population, and rank them all based on their "social credit."

The "social credit system," first announced in 2014, aims to reinforce the idea that "keeping trust is glorious and breaking trust is disgraceful," according to a government document.

The program is due to be fully operational nationwide by 2020, but is being piloted for millions of people across the country already. The scheme will be mandatory.

At the moment the system is piecemeal — some are run by city councils, others are scored by private tech platforms which hold personal data.

Like private credit scores, a person's social score can move up and down depending on their behavior. The exact methodology is a secret — but examples of infractions include bad driving, smoking in non-smoking zones, buying too many video games and posting fake news online.

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More at link: https://www.businessinsider.com/china-social-credit-system-punishments-and-rewards-explained-2018-4

[linksep]

Correlation does not equal causation

Logic has no place in Leftist-Socialist-Communist argument about anything.

"8/13 Guns used in Mass shootings..." sounds a lot more horrifying than: "256,777,291 guns have been purchased on credit cards since 1998 and only 0.000003% (8) of those have been used in mass shootings".

[Grayskies]

"Leftists don't care about facts" - Grayskies

[Holland&Holland]

"Leftists don't care about facts" - Grayskies

Well they do, provided they get to make them up.

[Sorcerer]

CASH IS KING. Just saying. The “things” I buy on line have to be bought with a CC. Only one firearm has been bought with a CC sense 2005. Surprise buy. Now a lot of “equipment” has been purchased with a CC so there is a bit of a paper trail.

Ok, I'll bite, what is a surprise buy? It just jumps in your cart and you don't notice it until you already checked out?

A surprise buy is not intending buy a firearm, hence not digging up a coffee can from the back yard. Then stumbling into a really great deal on something you’ve been looking for, for the last 18 months. A half hour before closing time.