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Ghost wrote:

Holland&Holland wrote:So no comments on the announcement yesterday?

Apparently in NZ the prime minister can basically dictate law and the government engine makes it happen. I hope we never live under a monarchy such as this.

They don’t even have a constitution.

Or freedom

People in NZ don’t have freedom?


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BorderBadger wrote:People in NZ don’t have freedom?


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When a political leader has the ability to ram a law through regardless of opposition and its passing is a forgone conclusion, what would you call it?

Holland&Holland wrote:

BorderBadger wrote:People in NZ don’t have freedom?


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When a political leader has the ability to ram a law through regardless of opposition and its passing is a forgone conclusion, what would you call it?

Bump stock ban?

Ghost wrote:

Holland&Holland wrote:

BorderBadger wrote:People in NZ don’t have freedom?


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When a political leader has the ability to ram a law through regardless of opposition and its passing is a forgone conclusion, what would you call it?

Bump stock ban?

It has that in common

BorderBadger wrote:People in NZ don’t have freedom?


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The NZ Interior Minister reminded the public in a statement regarding the forthcoming ban that, that owning firearms in NZ is a “privilege and not a right”, fwiw.

Randygmn wrote:

BorderBadger wrote:People in NZ don’t have freedom?


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The NZ Interior Minister reminded the public in a statement regarding the forthcoming ban that, that owning firearms in NZ is a “privilege and not a right”, fwiw.

Yup. Freedom is when the government is beholden to the people. When people are beholden to th government you have something else entirely.

Just an FYI, for anyone still following this. I received this email today from the NZ police:



Hello,

As a current or former holder of a New Zealand firearms licence you should be aware of new legislation amending our firearms laws which came into effect on Friday 12 April, 2019.

Police are working through what impact these changes may have on you. The most significant change is prohibiting most semi-automatic firearms, parts, and large-capacity magazines.


Amnesty period
There is now an amnesty in place for at least six months. The purpose of the amnesty is to provide you with reasonable time to notify Police that you possess prohibited items.

This period of time is also to enable some people to apply for an exemption to possess prohibited items (e.g. Dealers, Collectors and people involved in wild animal and animal pest control). The online notification form enables people to show an intent to apply for an exemption.

Please note, the amnesty period is not to allow for the continued use of these prohibited firearms.

During the amnesty period you should:
Continue to maintain the safe and secure storage of your firearms – DO NOT bring them into a police station (unless you have specifically made prior arrangements with Police to do so).
Visit the page Changes to Firearms Law - Prohibited Firearms (http://www.police.govt.nz/advice/firear ... d-firearms) on the police website. Once there, scroll down to locate and complete the online notification form.
Be aware that the collection of firearms will occur at a later stage and you will be advised in due course of the process for this.
Keep an eye on the Police website where information will be kept updated.
(Please note if you have already completed a notification form you do not need to complete another one on receipt of this email).

Noting the above, a number of licence and/or endorsement holders may now find they are in possession of prohibited firearms, parts, or large-capacity magazines. The table below outlines what you need to note or do now:

Licence / Endorsement What's Changed Action you need to take What Police will do
All licence holders You may be impacted by the law change
Continue to store your firearm/s safely and securely.

If you have a prohibited firearm, magazine or part, complete the Police Online Notification Form outlining your intent to hand in your firearm/s.
Please keep an eye on the website for updates.

Police will contact you about the process for handing in your firearms once it is finalised.
Formerly E-endorsed licence holders You are impacted by the law change. This category no longer exists
Continue to store your firearm/s safely and securely.

Complete the Police Online Notification Form outlining your intent to hand in your semi-automatic firearm/s and be part of the yet to be announced buy-back scheme.

Please keep an eye on the website for updates.

Police will contact you about the process for handing in your firearms once it is finalised.
Pistols No change No action required Licensing systems and processes remain as is.
Collectors You may be impacted by the law change
Continue to store your firearm/s safely and securely.

At this stage you are not required to complete the Police Online Firearm Notification Form.

Please keep an eye on the website for updates.

Police will notify you, and let you know when to complete the Police Online Firearm Notification Form.
D - Dealers You may be impacted by the law change
Continue to store your firearm/s safely and securely.

Please keep an eye on the website for updates.

Police are developing the process for you to hand in your prohibited items. We will be in contact with you in due course.
Pest controllers holding newly prohibited items You may be impacted by the law change
Continue to store your firearm/s safely and securely.

Complete the Police Online Notification Form ensuring you tick the Pest Control box.

Please keep an eye on the website for updates.

Processes for applying for an endorsement are being developed. Police will update information on its website.

We know you may have questions, especially relating to a buy-back and how this will work. These details are being worked through and will be announced in due course.

Please note there is a list of questions and answers on the Police website. This list will be updated as more information becomes known.

If this news and the speed of these changes are causing anxiety or stress for you, think about getting support by calling or texting 1737 anytime, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week to talk it through with a trained counsellor 1737.org.nz

Please do not reply to this email. The email address is not monitored.


Kind regards
Mike Clement
Deputy Commissioner

Punish everyone for the actions of just one. Just what the one wanted.

Just so wrong on so many levels.

Erud wrote:Just an FYI, for anyone still following this. I received this email today from the NZ police:

Hello,
As a current or former holder of a New Zealand firearms licence you should be aware of new legislation amending our firearms laws which came into effect on Friday 12 April, 2019.

And they wonder why gun owners oppose "common sense" laws like registration.

Lumpy wrote:

Erud wrote:Just an FYI, for anyone still following this. I received this email today from the NZ police:

Hello,
As a current or former holder of a New Zealand firearms licence you should be aware of new legislation amending our firearms laws which came into effect on Friday 12 April, 2019.

And they wonder why gun owners oppose "common sense" laws like registration.

We already have common sense gun control, it is called the 2nd amendment.

Update:

https://inhomelandsecurity.com/new-zealand-is-trying-to-buy-back-the-military-style-weapons-it-banned-in-april-its-not-so-easy/

New Zealand is Trying to Buy Back the Military-Style Weapons it Banned in April. It’s Not So Easy.

Too much to quote, click the link and read it.

Condensed version:

The evil semi-auto rifles aren't registered after all. NZ authorities have no idea how many there are, or who has them. Gun owners are balking at the compensation amount, and only 700 have been turned in so far.

The amnesty ends in December.

Rip Van Winkle wrote:Condensed version:

The evil semi-auto rifles aren't registered after all. NZ authorities have no idea how many there are, or who has them. Gun owners are balking at the compensation amount, and only 700 have been turned in so far.

The amnesty ends in December.

It’s worth the read though for the variety of ways people are responding to it.