Are they never going to give up? Stevens still denies Heller

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Are they never going to give up? Stevens still denies Heller

Postby jdege on Tue May 14, 2019 11:41 am

Are they never gong to give up?

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/05/john-paul-stevens-court-failed-gun-control/587272/
The Supreme Court’s Worst Decision of My Tenure
District of Columbia v. Heller recognized an individual right to possess a firearm under the Constitution. Here’s why the case was wrongly decided.

JOHN PAUL STEVENS


Throughout most of American history there was no federal objection to laws regulating the civilian use of firearms. When I joined the Supreme Court in 1975, both state and federal judges accepted the Court’s unanimous decision in United States v. Miller as having established that the Second Amendment’s protection of the right to bear arms was possessed only by members of the militia and applied only to weapons used by the militia. In that case, the Court upheld the indictment of a man who possessed a short-barreled shotgun, writing, “In the absence of any evidence that the possession or use of a ‘shotgun having a barrel of less than eighteen inches in length’ has some reasonable relationship to the preservation or efficiency of a well regulated militia, we cannot say that the Second Amendment guarantees the right to keep and bear such an instrument.”


Except that Miller did not hold that "the Second Amendment’s protection of the right to bear arms was possessed only by members of the militia."

And he knows that it didn't.

That's not the only blatant lie.
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Re: Are they never going to give up? Stevens still denies Heller

Postby Holland&Holland on Tue May 14, 2019 9:23 pm

jdege wrote:Are they never gong to give up?


Nope
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Re: Are they never going to give up? Stevens still denies Heller

Postby Ghost on Tue May 14, 2019 9:36 pm

Haha
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Re: Are they never going to give up? Stevens still denies Heller

Postby crbutler on Tue May 14, 2019 11:47 pm

Strangely enough, wasn't Stevens the one who said we need to repeal the second amendment?

He's getting dementia, apparently.
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Re: Are they never going to give up? Stevens still denies Heller

Postby Ghost on Wed May 15, 2019 4:08 am

crbutler wrote:Strangely enough, wasn't Stevens the one who said we need to repeal the second amendment?

He's getting dementia, apparently.

Maybe he also forgot he’s a former justice.
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Re: Are they never going to give up? Stevens still denies Heller

Postby Rip Van Winkle on Wed May 15, 2019 5:02 am

crbutler wrote:Strangely enough, wasn't Stevens the one who said we need to repeal the second amendment?

He's getting dementia, apparently.

Not dementia, just progressivism.
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Re: Are they never going to give up? Stevens still denies Heller

Postby yukonjasper on Wed May 15, 2019 1:17 pm

Rip Van Winkle wrote:
crbutler wrote:Strangely enough, wasn't Stevens the one who said we need to repeal the second amendment?

He's getting dementia, apparently.

Not dementia, just progressivism.

Many would argue that they are the same thing.
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Re: Are they never going to give up? Stevens still denies Heller

Postby Rip Van Winkle on Wed May 15, 2019 1:57 pm

yukonjasper wrote:Many would argue that they are the same thing.

Progressivism is much more destructive.
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Re: Are they never going to give up? Stevens still denies Heller

Postby yukonjasper on Wed May 15, 2019 2:02 pm

Agreed.
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Re: Are they never going to give up? Stevens still denies Heller

Postby Ghost on Wed May 15, 2019 3:15 pm

Rip Van Winkle wrote:
yukonjasper wrote:Many would argue that they are the same thing.

Progressivism is much more destructive.

Bingo
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Re: Are they never going to give up? Stevens still denies Heller

Postby DanM on Wed May 15, 2019 8:06 pm

Stevens is so full of resentment that he lost in the Heller decision that he is still sore about it. I see his latest statements as not just sour grapes, but a supposed 'basis' for other leftists to claim in propaganda. Even though he is retired from the court he thinks he still has influence. :roll:
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Re: Are they never going to give up? Stevens still denies Heller

Postby Ghost on Wed May 15, 2019 8:27 pm

This reminds me, has anyone seen RBG this year?
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Re: Are they never going to give up? Stevens still denies Heller

Postby Rip Van Winkle on Thu May 16, 2019 6:08 am

Ghost wrote:This reminds me, has anyone seen RBG this year?

Last I heard she was back in court hearing cases.

But, that was a few months ago......
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Re: Are they never going to give up? Stevens still denies Heller

Postby Ghost on Thu May 16, 2019 8:51 am

Rip Van Winkle wrote:
Ghost wrote:This reminds me, has anyone seen RBG this year?

Last I heard she was back in court hearing cases.

But, that was a few months ago......

I don’t think anyone has seen her
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Re: Are they never going to give up? Stevens still denies Heller

Postby Holland&Holland on Thu May 16, 2019 9:01 pm

I thought she went into a memory card unit?

Or was I dreaming?
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