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Gun from buy-back program found near dead gang member

Postby jdege on Mon Nov 18, 2019 9:39 am

https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/gun-from-chicago-buy-back-program-found-near-dead-gang-member-in-police-shooting/
Gun from Chicago buy-back program found near dead gang member in police shooting
Chicago, Illinois- According to an AGG report, William Stewart Boyd traded his father’s old .38 caliber Smith & Wesson snub nose for less than $100 in a gun buyback in 2004. It was supposed to be destroyed, but somehow the same handgun with serial number J515268 was found next to a dead body involved in a police shooting eight years later.

So, did the cop at the buy-back think that it would make a good throw-down weapon, pocket it, and leave it next to the body after an unjustified shooting?

Or did he just sell it?

Reasonable doubt, anyone?
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Re: Gun from buy-back program found near dead gang member

Postby Ghost on Mon Nov 18, 2019 10:56 am

Typical Chicago no matter how it happened
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Re: Gun from buy-back program found near dead gang member

Postby yukonjasper on Mon Nov 18, 2019 10:57 am

My guess is the former. Police officers are not always bright.
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Re: Gun from buy-back program found near dead gang member

Postby jdege on Mon Nov 18, 2019 12:17 pm

yukonjasper wrote:My guess is the former. Police officers are not always bright.

I'm leaning towards the former:
Officer Garrity has a long history of disciplinary problems and is currently collecting a disability pension for PTSD. Garrity was disciplined for using a “high powered rifle” during a traffic stop, threatening another officer, and was stopped once for going 90 mph in a 30-mph zone.
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Re: Gun from buy-back program found near dead gang member

Postby rtk on Mon Nov 18, 2019 12:52 pm

Crooked city, crooked cops....go figure.
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Re: Gun from buy-back program found near dead gang member

Postby smurfman on Mon Nov 18, 2019 2:04 pm

The gun was allegedly turned into a Chicago site run by presumably Chisago Police Dept. Garrity does not seem to have been employed by Chicago PD therefore he would not of had direct access to it. If it made it to the street or to Garrity's hand there was at least one intermediary. Either way, it does not look good for the buyback program.
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Re: Gun from buy-back program found near dead gang member

Postby jdege on Mon Nov 18, 2019 2:32 pm

Another possibility is that there are two .38 S&W revolvers with serial number J515268.

Most manufacturers have duplicated serial numbers between different models, and S&W has made a lot of different models of .38 revolvers over the years.
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Re: Gun from buy-back program found near dead gang member

Postby Rip Van Winkle on Mon Nov 18, 2019 2:41 pm

If they have the gun's serial number, they logged it into some kind of inventory.

I'd like to know, at what point did the gun "disappear", and who was responsible for making sure that didn't happen?
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Re: Gun from buy-back program found near dead gang member

Postby Holland&Holland on Mon Nov 18, 2019 3:00 pm

Chicago :rotf:
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Re: Gun from buy-back program found near dead gang member

Postby westhope on Mon Nov 18, 2019 3:42 pm

Or someone entered the wrong S/N for the gun turned in.
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Re: Gun from buy-back program found near dead gang member

Postby xd ED on Mon Nov 18, 2019 5:42 pm

westhope wrote:Or someone entered the wrong S/N for the gun turned in.


As I follow this, the gun was traced, via serial number to the owner who claimed to have turned it in in a buy back program.

It would seem whatever records were, or weren't accurately recorded kept by police weren't an issue.
Further, given these buybacks all seem to boast of 'no questions asked', I would think recording the serial numbers might be a violation of that claim.
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Re: Gun from buy-back program found near dead gang member

Postby Sorcerer on Mon Nov 18, 2019 6:56 pm

Doesn’t everyone carry a throw gun. :roll:
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Re: Gun from buy-back program found near dead gang member

Postby Ghost on Mon Nov 18, 2019 7:59 pm

Sorcerer wrote:Doesn’t everyone carry a throw gun. :roll:

One is none and two is one
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Re: Gun from buy-back program found near dead gang member

Postby Ironbear on Mon Nov 18, 2019 8:00 pm

Sorcerer wrote:Doesn’t everyone carry a throw gun. :roll:
A Chicago "reload"?
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Re: Gun from buy-back program found near dead gang member

Postby xd ED on Mon Nov 18, 2019 8:04 pm

Rip Van Winkle wrote:If they have the gun's serial number, they logged it into some kind of inventory.

I'd like to know, at what point did the gun "disappear", and who was responsible for making sure that didn't happen?


Back when I was just out of high school, I worked at Kaplan's Scrap Yard on Shepard Rd, whilst trying to figure out if my near future included a job with Uncle Sugar. On more than one occasion various law enforcement agencies brought in confiscated firearms - long guns, hand guns to be shredded. They typically kept an eye on everything going in, and looked over the shredded metal coming out, but a noisy, dusty, dirty scrap yard was obviously no place the suits wanted to be any longer than necessary. I honestly do not know of anything that slipped through, but it wouldn't have been at all impossible.

Now when Sears brought in their 'turned-in-for-lifetime-replacement tools, it was a different story...at least until they got suspicious when they replaced a familiar looking large, expensive ratchet for the 3rd or 4th time.... :?
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