First person charged under Florida 'red flag' law found guil

[minnesotatv]

First person charged under Florida 'red flag' law found guilty

The first person to have his guns confiscated under Florida’s 2018 “red flag”
law has been found guilty over his refusal to voluntarily surrender the weapons.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/first-person ... und-guilty

[Ghost]

So he shot at his best friend?

[andrewP]

I'm confused about how the authorities would need a red flag law in order to confiscate weapons from someone who was at the time charged with attempted murder.

[Holland&Holland]

I'm confused about how the authorities would need a red flag law in order to confiscate weapons from someone who was at the time charged with attempted murder.

Maybe they meant a red herring law.

[Ghost]

I'm confused about how the authorities would need a red flag law in order to confiscate weapons from someone who was at the time charged with attempted murder.

Maybe they meant a red herring law.

Maybe it was the easiest way to punish him?

[Rip Van Winkle]

WTF was that article about? Did Florida need a "Red Flag" law to seize weapons from criminals? This dirt bag fired 6 shots at a car driven by his best friend, but he was found guilty of not volunteering to turn over his weapons?

[Grayskies]

WTF was that article about? Did Florida need a "Red Flag" law to seize weapons from criminals? This dirt bag fired 6 shots at a car driven by his best friend, but he was found guilty of not volunteering to turn over his weapons?

They probably prosecuted the charge that got the most jail time.

[Ghost]

WTF was that article about? Did Florida need a "Red Flag" law to seize weapons from criminals? This dirt bag fired 6 shots at a car driven by his best friend, but he was found guilty of not volunteering to turn over his weapons?

They probably prosecuted the charge that got the most jail time.

Hard to believe it’s the worst considering what he was doing.

But yes, it seems it’s just another tool in their toolbox. Like using a crescent wrench instead of finding that damned 10 mm

[Rip Van Winkle]

Hard to believe it’s the worst considering what he was doing.

But yes, it seems it’s just another tool in their toolbox. Like using a crescent wrench instead of finding that damned 10 mm

Or is it just another layer of laws which can be selectively enforced?

[Grayskies]

I was actually being sarcastic, sorry.

[Rip Van Winkle]

I was actually being sarcastic, sorry.

So was I.

Oh wait, no I wasn't

[Ghost]

Hard to believe it’s the worst considering what he was doing.

But yes, it seems it’s just another tool in their toolbox. Like using a crescent wrench instead of finding that damned 10 mm

Or is it just another layer of laws which can be selectively enforced?

All laws are selectively enforced

[minnesotatv]

I'm confused about how the authorities would need a red flag law in order to confiscate weapons from someone who was at the time charged with attempted murder.

IANAL

Apparently, when the defendant was released after being charged for shooting at his "friend"
part of the order for release was the he would not have any guns or ammunition, if he did he
would turn them in. Which he did not.

Law enforcement then used the red flag requirements to get a warrant to apply the red flag
law to the defendant. (Which makes some sense because he's already been charged with shooting
at somebody). They went to his residence and requested he turn over his firearms. When he
refused, under the Florida Red Flag law he committed a criminal act. That provided the LEO's
with the authority to search his premises WITHOUT A WARRANT (part of the way the FL Red Flag
law was written). They took his guns and ammo and he was jailed charged with the refusal - which
appears to be a felony. And I believe that in most jurisdictions, convicted felons are prohibited
from owning firearms.

The defendant claims he didn't understand the Red Flag law, which is pretty obvious.

To me, the point in all this is you'd better KNOW your local and state laws. This guy may have
screwed himself out of ever owning firearms again (being a convicted felon) by not voluntarily
turning over his guns when requested.

[Ghost]

I'm confused about how the authorities would need a red flag law in order to confiscate weapons from someone who was at the time charged with attempted murder.

IANAL

Apparently, when the defendant was released after being charged for shooting at his "friend"
part of the order for release was the he would not have any guns or ammunition, if he did he
would turn them in. Which he did not.

Law enforcement then used the red flag requirements to get a warrant to apply the red flag
law to the defendant. (Which makes some sense because he's already been charged with shooting
at somebody). They went to his residence and requested he turn over his firearms. When he
refused, under the Florida Red Flag law he committed a criminal act. That provided the LEO's
with the authority to search his premises WITHOUT A WARRANT (part of the way the FL Red Flag
law was written). They took his guns and ammo and he was jailed charged with the refusal - which
appears to be a felony. And I believe that in most jurisdictions, convicted felons are prohibited
from owning firearms.

The defendant claims he didn't understand the Red Flag law, which is pretty obvious.

To me, the point in all this is you'd better KNOW your local and state laws. This guy may have
screwed himself out of ever owning firearms again (being a convicted felon) by not voluntarily
turning over his guns when requested.

Based on his actions, I’m not sure he should have any guns.

[Holland&Holland]

Alleged actions.