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Re: 'The law is the law': Virginia Democrats float prosecution

Postby Grayskies on Sun Dec 15, 2019 10:56 am

Dana Loesch@DLoesch wrote:Va National Guard responding to Democrat’s’ threat to send them after law-abiding Americans who decline to forfeit rights, property, and due process as proposed by the state legislature.

https://twitter.com/DLoesch/status/1206236153273339907

Va. National Guard@VaNationalGuard wrote:From the Adjutant General of Virginia: "We have received multiple questions regarding proposed legislation for the 2020 General Assembly session and the authority of the Governor of Virginia to employ the Virginia National Guard in a law enforcement role.

We understand and respect the passion people feel for the U.S. Constitution and 2nd Amendment rights. We will not speculate about the possible use of the Virginia National Guard.

I encourage everyone to be patient while we allow our elected officials to work through the legislative process. We have not received any requests from the Governor, or anyone on his staff, about serving in a law enforcement role related to any proposed legislation.

I expect our Soldiers, Airmen and members of the Virginia Defense Force to be professional and respectful in their discussions about this subject.

As private citizens, our personnel are free to express their opinions to their elected officials, but they should not engage in any political activity while in a uniformed status.

We will provide regular updates when appropriate during the General Assembly session. Please utilize your chain of command to direct any questions or concerns to my office, and we will do our best to address them." - Maj. Gen. Timothy P. Williams, the Adjutant General of VA

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Re: 'The law is the law': Virginia Democrats float prosecution

Postby Rip Van Winkle on Sun Dec 15, 2019 11:41 am

I don't find a whole lot of comfort in the General's response.
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Re: 'The law is the law': Virginia Democrats float prosecution

Postby Ghost on Sun Dec 15, 2019 11:43 am

Rip Van Winkle wrote:I don't find a whole lot of comfort in the General's response.

Nor do I.

I read it as, if you’re in uniform you do as you are told.
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Re: 'The law is the law': Virginia Democrats float prosecution

Postby jdege on Sun Dec 15, 2019 1:49 pm

Ghost wrote:
Rip Van Winkle wrote:I don't find a whole lot of comfort in the General's response.

Nor do I.

I read it as, if you’re in uniform you do as you are told.


Following orders is no defense against committing an illegal act.

But I have little faith that many courts martial will hold that refusing an order that you personally believe to be unconstitutional is a valid defense.

We're more likely to see silent refusal than open disobedience.
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Re: 'The law is the law': Virginia Democrats float prosecution

Postby Rip Van Winkle on Sun Dec 15, 2019 6:15 pm

Virginia Democrats Abandon Gun Confiscation As Pro-Freedom Groups Surge In State

Virginia Democrats were forced to abandon part of their extremist gun control agenda, the confiscations of semi-automatic firearms from law abiding citizens, on Monday as opposition to their anti-Second Amendment agenda has exploded across the state.

“Governor Ralph Northam (D.) and incoming Senate majority leader Dick Saslaw (D.) said they will no longer pursue their marquee plan to ban the possession of ‘assault weapons,'” The Free Beacon reported. “Instead, they will include a provision to allow Virginians to keep the firearms they already own. The reversal comes before the newly elected Democratic majority has even been sworn in, after a majority of the state’s counties declared themselves ‘Second Amendment sanctuaries.'”
https://www.dailywire.com/news/virginia-democrats-abandon-gun-confiscation-as-pro-freedom-groups-surge-in-state?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=dwbrand&fbclid=IwAR2ZrutFytKpNpMXgD6la4uphRbriiA37fVWfJbH-PyJGN-LpFpBTq_GK8c
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Re: 'The law is the law': Virginia Democrats float prosecution

Postby Ghost on Sun Dec 15, 2019 6:19 pm

Rip Van Winkle wrote:
Virginia Democrats Abandon Gun Confiscation As Pro-Freedom Groups Surge In State

Virginia Democrats were forced to abandon part of their extremist gun control agenda, the confiscations of semi-automatic firearms from law abiding citizens, on Monday as opposition to their anti-Second Amendment agenda has exploded across the state.

“Governor Ralph Northam (D.) and incoming Senate majority leader Dick Saslaw (D.) said they will no longer pursue their marquee plan to ban the possession of ‘assault weapons,'” The Free Beacon reported. “Instead, they will include a provision to allow Virginians to keep the firearms they already own. The reversal comes before the newly elected Democratic majority has even been sworn in, after a majority of the state’s counties declared themselves ‘Second Amendment sanctuaries.'”
https://www.dailywire.com/news/virginia-democrats-abandon-gun-confiscation-as-pro-freedom-groups-surge-in-state?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=dwbrand&fbclid=IwAR2ZrutFytKpNpMXgD6la4uphRbriiA37fVWfJbH-PyJGN-LpFpBTq_GK8c

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Re: 'The law is the law': Virginia Democrats float prosecution

Postby Grayskies on Sun Dec 15, 2019 6:46 pm

Boots with cleats!

In this case, the governor’s assault weapons ban will include a grandfather clause for individuals who already own assault weapons, with the requirement they register their weapons before the end of a designated grace period. Additional details on this and all other bills will be announced prior to the start of the upcoming session.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/virginia ... e-in-state

Not much of a win, they will know where to go to confiscate them at a later date.
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Re: 'The law is the law': Virginia Democrats float prosecution

Postby Holland&Holland on Sun Dec 15, 2019 9:11 pm

Ghost wrote:
Rip Van Winkle wrote:I don't find a whole lot of comfort in the General's response.

Nor do I.

I read it as, if you’re in uniform you do as you are told.


What did you guys expect his official response to be? Come on MN Gun talk and talk about how it is going to be over his dead body?
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Re: 'The law is the law': Virginia Democrats float prosecution

Postby Ghost on Sun Dec 15, 2019 9:17 pm

Holland&Holland wrote:
Ghost wrote:
Rip Van Winkle wrote:I don't find a whole lot of comfort in the General's response.

Nor do I.

I read it as, if you’re in uniform you do as you are told.


What did you guys expect his official response to be? Come on MN Gun talk and talk about how it is going to be over his dead body?

No, just more wiggle room
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Re: 'The law is the law': Virginia Democrats float prosecution

Postby Grayskies on Sun Dec 15, 2019 9:20 pm

He could have not tweeted.
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Re: 'The law is the law': Virginia Democrats float prosecution

Postby Ghost on Sun Dec 15, 2019 9:36 pm

Grayskies wrote:He could have not tweeted.

Trying to stay relevant
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Re: 'The law is the law': Virginia Democrats float prosecution

Postby Holland&Holland on Sun Dec 15, 2019 9:54 pm

Ghost wrote:
Grayskies wrote:He could have not tweeted.

Trying to stay relevant


Probably trying to maintain command.
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Re: 'The law is the law': Virginia Democrats float prosecution

Postby BigBlue on Sun Dec 15, 2019 10:03 pm

Grayskies wrote:Boots with cleats!


May be more effective:

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'The law is the law': Virginia Democrats float prosecution

Postby PHATSPEED7x on Mon Dec 16, 2019 5:49 pm

Bullets change government far surer than votes. And I'll gladly fire the first shot.

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Re: 'The law is the law': Virginia Democrats float prosecution

Postby Holland&Holland on Mon Dec 16, 2019 8:39 pm

PHATSPEED7x wrote:Bullets change government far surer than votes. And I'll gladly fire the first shot.

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