Ohio House passes ‘stand your ground’ bill

[jdege]

https://www.cleveland.com/open/2020/12/ohio-house-passes-stand-your-ground-bill-after-emotional-debate.html
Ohio House passes ‘stand your ground’ bill after emotional debate

Under existing Ohio law, people are justified in using deadly force in self-defense so long as they aren’t the aggressor, believe they are in imminent danger of death or great bodily harm, and are in their home or vehicle.

The amendment would remove the “home or vehicle” requirement, and instead state that the defendant need only be in a place where they lawfully have the right to be.

[Bearcatrp]

We need that here. To bad tards run this state.

[yukonjasper]

Might be time to consider moving to Ohio.

[Tronster]

Might be time to consider moving to Ohio.

...or the Czech Republic?

[yukonjasper]

Yes, anywhere else as we descend into the Liberal Hell.

[hammAR]

Lets wait to see if Gov Deadwine signs it.....

[yukonjasper]

Lets wait to see if Gov Deadwine signs it.....

True.

[Ironbear]

Not sure if Ohio still would be the best place to go. I remember Ohio being specifically mentioned in Andrew Branca's book, The Law of Self-Defense, so I went looking.

To paraphrase, in forty-nine states, the prosecutor has the responsibility of "burden of proof" for self-defense cases. The prosecution must prove "beyond a reasonable doubt" that it wasn't self-defense; and then prove "beyond a reasonable doubt" that a crime was committed, to prosecute. In Ohio, the burden lies with the defendant, who has to prove "by a preponderance of evidence" (more likely than not) that it was self-defense. [Law of Self-Defense, Andrew Branca, 2017, pg. 36]

I don't know if anything has changed since the 2017 issue of my copy, but them having to "prove that you are guilty"; would be better than you having to "prove you are innocent" .

I don't know if this law has broader implications than "stand your ground", but the new law may be an effort to bring Ohio law into closer conformance with the rest of the country.

[Ironbear]

Well whatever they put in the coffee over there in Ohio, they should spread it around. Ohio signed into law, free speech protections on campus'. Looks pretty bipartisan too.

https://legalinsurrection.com/2020/12/ohio-bans-campus-free-speech-zones-and-enhances-protections-for-other-forms-of-expression/

The title kind of threw me first. "Bans Campus Free Speech Zone", means they can't create restricted "zones" where freedom of speech is allowed. All campus is fee speech.