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Re: Boulder mass shooting suspect identified

Postby LarryFlew on Wed Mar 24, 2021 2:10 pm

Holland&Holland wrote:Yet another reason to take ARs away from middle aged white guys.


REALLY wishing 73 was MIDDLE aged ;-(
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Re: Boulder mass shooting suspect identified

Postby Holland&Holland on Wed Mar 24, 2021 2:22 pm

LarryFlew wrote:
Holland&Holland wrote:Yet another reason to take ARs away from middle aged white guys.


REALLY wishing 73 was MIDDLE aged ;-(


Wait, it isn't?
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Re: Boulder mass shooting suspect identified

Postby Bearcatrp on Wed Mar 24, 2021 2:44 pm

Erud wrote:
Bearcatrp wrote:Seems this guy was on the FBI radar but did nothing when he comments about attacking a Trump rally. Another news report talked about he lost a wrestling match, quits on the spot, then threatens to kill everyone. Again, nothing done. I watched how they brought him out of the store. Bloody leg, blood on hands and arm. Supposedly shot in the leg. Yet he showed little signs of limping. Looked like a casual walk to the squad car. Seems weird.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/boulder-shoo ... at-we-know


What seems weird? Also curious as to your “something doesn’t add up” comment earlier on. What do you suspect is going on here?

Well, has a hole in his leg from a gun shot. Not sure from who. They walk him out instead on a stretcher. Barely limps. Leg is covered in dried blood along with blood on hands and arm which looks dry. Yet they walk him out. No one is carrying his so called body armor or the rifle he used. But he is walking out in shorts. Why was he not on a stretcher being wounded? Why is he barely limping? He threatens to kill everyone after losing his wrestling match. Why was he not charged for terrorist threat? Here is a guy who buys a AR 6 days prior but shoots with precision. He doesn't spray and pray, every shot kills someone. Has an assault charge on his record but still gets clearance to buy a new rifle. Way to many red flags!
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Re: Boulder mass shooting suspect identified

Postby Lumpy on Wed Mar 24, 2021 5:38 pm

Holland&Holland wrote:Yet another reason to take ARs away from middle aged white guys.
Thank goodness he wasn't an evil white oppressor or else the condemnation would echo around the world like the Krakatoa explosion.
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Re: Boulder mass shooting suspect identified

Postby Erud on Wed Mar 24, 2021 6:10 pm

Bearcatrp wrote:
Erud wrote:
Bearcatrp wrote:Seems this guy was on the FBI radar but did nothing when he comments about attacking a Trump rally. Another news report talked about he lost a wrestling match, quits on the spot, then threatens to kill everyone. Again, nothing done. I watched how they brought him out of the store. Bloody leg, blood on hands and arm. Supposedly shot in the leg. Yet he showed little signs of limping. Looked like a casual walk to the squad car. Seems weird.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/boulder-shoo ... at-we-know


What seems weird? Also curious as to your “something doesn’t add up” comment earlier on. What do you suspect is going on here?

Well, has a hole in his leg from a gun shot. Not sure from who. They walk him out instead on a stretcher. Barely limps. Leg is covered in dried blood along with blood on hands and arm which looks dry. Yet they walk him out. No one is carrying his so called body armor or the rifle he used. But he is walking out in shorts. Why was he not on a stretcher being wounded? Why is he barely limping? He threatens to kill everyone after losing his wrestling match. Why was he not charged for terrorist threat? Here is a guy who buys a AR 6 days prior but shoots with precision. He doesn't spray and pray, every shot kills someone. Has an assault charge on his record but still gets clearance to buy a new rifle. Way to many red flags!


I see where you're going here, but I think that in this case the simplest answers are most likely the correct answers. Here are my theories:

- He was shot by one of the cops in the gunfight, the blood is from that.

- They walk him out because he could walk. They were taking him into custody because he'd just killed 10 people (including a cop), so they probably were not too concerned about his flesh wound. Medical crew may not have been there yet.

- He barely limps because he was just in a gunfight and killed a bunch of people. Adrenalin would be pumping, and he may not even know that he's been shot at that point.

- Body armor and rifle were probably brought out separately, I'd expect that they'd be considered part of the crime scene until everything got sorted out. The fact that no one was carrying them at the same time that they brought him out is meaningless.

- He wasn't charged with terroristic threats because that incident happened when he was in high school, and it doesn't sound like anyone called th police about it. He was a teenager that got mad about losing and started screaming at everyone around. Not 100% normal, but not entirely unheard of for teenage boys. Also, he is a Muslim, and people are terrified of offending them.

- He only fired 10 shots? I hadn't heard that. At any rate, shooting unarmed people inside a grocery store probably doesn't require a high level of marksmanship.

- Maybe the assault charge didn't show up on the BC? It sounds like that would not be unprecedented.

If someone were going to plan a shooting for the purpose of making people want to ban guns, the Muslim Syrian immigrant with a history of disliking Donald Trump is not the guy they'd use.
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Re: Boulder mass shooting suspect identified

Postby rtk on Wed Mar 24, 2021 7:39 pm

We can all speculate what and why but we will all probably never know the whole story.
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Re: Boulder mass shooting suspect identified

Postby Holland&Holland on Wed Mar 24, 2021 9:15 pm

I don’t get it. We think this is a conspiracy now?
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Re: Boulder mass shooting suspect identified

Postby smurfman on Wed Mar 24, 2021 9:55 pm

Erud wrote:
Bearcatrp wrote:Well, has a hole in his leg from a gun shot. Not sure from who. They walk him out instead on a stretcher. Barely limps. Leg is covered in dried blood along with blood on hands and arm which looks dry. Yet they walk him out. No one is carrying his so called body armor or the rifle he used. But he is walking out in shorts. Why was he not on a stretcher being wounded? Why is he barely limping? He threatens to kill everyone after losing his wrestling match. Why was he not charged for terrorist threat? Here is a guy who buys a AR 6 days prior but shoots with precision. He doesn't spray and pray, every shot kills someone. Has an assault charge on his record but still gets clearance to buy a new rifle. Way to many red flags!


I see where you're going here, but I think that in this case the simplest answers are most likely the correct answers. Here are my theories:

- He was shot by one of the cops in the gunfight, the blood is from that.

- They walk him out because he could walk. They were taking him into custody because he'd just killed 10 people (including a cop), so they probably were not too concerned about his flesh wound. Medical crew may not have been there yet.

- He barely limps because he was just in a gunfight and killed a bunch of people. Adrenalin would be pumping, and he may not even know that he's been shot at that point.

- Body armor and rifle were probably brought out separately, I'd expect that they'd be considered part of the crime scene until everything got sorted out. The fact that no one was carrying them at the same time that they brought him out is meaningless.

- He wasn't charged with terroristic threats because that incident happened when he was in high school, and it doesn't sound like anyone called th police about it. He was a teenager that got mad about losing and started screaming at everyone around. Not 100% normal, but not entirely unheard of for teenage boys. Also, he is a Muslim, and people are terrified of offending them.

- He only fired 10 shots? I hadn't heard that. At any rate, shooting unarmed people inside a grocery store probably doesn't require a high level of marksmanship.

- Maybe the assault charge didn't show up on the BC? It sounds like that would not be unprecedented.

If someone were going to plan a shooting for the purpose of making people want to ban guns, the Muslim Syrian immigrant with a history of disliking Donald Trump is not the guy they'd use.


The questions are pretty well covered above and by far the likeliest and most reasonable explanations. The only place to expound is that an assault conviction is not an automatic disqualifier as not all assaults are felonies. Unless a domestic violence incident, and beating a fellow student hardly qualifies, the assault charges can run the range of misdemeanors none of which would disqualify the suspect from passing a background check. One would have noticed this if filling out a 4473 as one of the questions is in regards to the applicant having ever been convicted of a crime that could have resulted in a sentence of over one year, the threshold for being a felony.

As the penalty seems to have been community service and probation, the odds say the assault conviction was something less than a felony. So, it is most probable nothing odd or sinister occurred regarding the assault conviction and is merely a rabbit hole one can venture down to no purpose.
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