FAUX HISTOIRE OF THE RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS: YOUNG v. HAWAII (9t

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FAUX HISTOIRE OF THE RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS: YOUNG v. HAWAII (9t

Postby jdege on Tue Jul 20, 2021 11:40 am

https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3885910
FAUX HISTOIRE OF THE RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS: YOUNG v. HAWAII (9th Cir. 20
Young v. Hawaii, 992 F.3d 765 (9th Cir. 2021) (en banc), purports to find that the right to bear arms is outside the historical scope of the Second Amendment, which protects that very right to bear arms. The actual text of the Second Amendment is AWOL in the Ninth Circuit’s holding that Hawaii may ban the carrying of firearms, whether openly or concealed. The court’s lengthy account of the history of prohibition on bearing arms is a faux histoire.

Young begins by tracing Hawaii’s ban on carrying a pistol to 1852, when Hawaii was a monarchy. Hawaii’s Constitution recognized no right to bear arms, and instead the law declared that only persons in government were “authorized to bear arms.” When the monarchy was overthrown and a republic created, a law was enacted allowing anyone to carry a pistol by paying a license fee. The court simply ignores that period and highlights restrictions imposed after annexation by the United States. And it disregards how the “good cause” exemption, which allowed carrying without a license, was enforced.

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The Ninth Circuit in Young paints a faux histoire of the right to bear arms. It relies on medieval decrees that would have been anathema to the Founders, deletes key passage from historical sources, leaps over crucial stages of American history such as the coming of the Revolution and of Reconstruction, and otherwise distorts the past to demonstrate that the right to bear arms is actually beyond the historical scope of the right to bear arms.
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Re: FAUX HISTOIRE OF THE RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS: YOUNG v. HAWAII (9t

Postby TSKNIGHT on Tue Jul 20, 2021 6:51 pm

This surprises you? It's the 9th Circus! You should expect this kind of acrobatics from them.
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Re: FAUX HISTOIRE OF THE RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS: YOUNG v. HAWAII (9t

Postby LarryFlew on Tue Jul 20, 2021 9:49 pm

Despite Trump getting more conservative judges into the 9th it is still the farthest left leaning court.
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Re: FAUX HISTOIRE OF THE RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS: YOUNG v. HAWAII (9t

Postby Holland&Holland on Wed Jul 21, 2021 7:13 pm

Wait I am still allowed to pillage the country side as long as I am on horseback of a non-tactical breed and my sword is only a hand and a half max correct?
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Re: FAUX HISTOIRE OF THE RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS: YOUNG v. HAWAII (9t

Postby Lumpy on Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:57 am

The Ninth Circuit apparently believes that since Hawaii became a USA territory and then state after all that silly "Minutemen" nonsense from the Eighteenth century, that the state has bypassed all that keep and bear arms stuff and entered the modern age unsullied by the notion of gun ownership being a right.
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