A.T.F. Moves to Close ‘Ghost Guns’ Loophole in Federal Rule

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A.T.F. Moves to Close ‘Ghost Guns’ Loophole in Federal Rule

Postby jdege on Wed Dec 28, 2022 5:50 pm

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/27/us/politics/ghost-guns-atf-rule.html
A.T.F. Moves to Close ‘Ghost Guns’ Loophole in Federal Rule
New guidance from the Biden administration requires pistol parts to be subject to the same regulations as fully finished firearms.
WASHINGTON — The Biden administration is closing a major loophole in a new federal rule intended to regulate the sale of pistol parts that can readily be turned into untraceable homemade firearms, in an aggressive expansion of its crackdown on so-called ghost guns.

On Tuesday, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives directed vendors who sell partially finished frames of Glock-style handguns — the pistol grip and firing mechanism — to treat them like fully completed firearms, which are subject to federal regulations. The move, outlined in an open letter to federally licensed gun dealers, requires sellers to mark the parts with serial numbers, and for buyers to undergo criminal background checks.

The guidance could severely restrict the sale of unregulated and untraceable “80 percent” frames and receivers that have been linked to thousands of crimes, a top goal of the gun control movement. Such parts only require simple alterations to become operational.

The move, should it survive likely legal challenges from gun rights groups, would be among the most significant executive actions President Biden has taken to fulfill his campaign promise to stem the scourge of handgun violence, an effort highlighted by the passage of a bipartisan gun deal in June.
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Re: A.T.F. Moves to Close ‘Ghost Guns’ Loophole in Federal Rule

Postby Lumpy on Wed Dec 28, 2022 7:59 pm

At some point one single part of a gun has to be "the" gun, or else you'd have multiple legal "guns" assembled into one working firearm.
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Re: A.T.F. Moves to Close ‘Ghost Guns’ Loophole in Federal Rule

Postby TSKNIGHT on Wed Dec 28, 2022 8:13 pm

Lumpy wrote:At some point one single part of a gun has to be "the" gun, or else you'd have multiple legal "guns" assembled into one working firearm.


Now don't confuse them with logic. All guns are bad and some even badder than others.

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Re: A.T.F. Moves to Close ‘Ghost Guns’ Loophole in Federal Rule

Postby Holland&Holland on Thu Dec 29, 2022 9:00 am

What if my aluminum pop can identifies as a firearm?
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Re: A.T.F. Moves to Close ‘Ghost Guns’ Loophole in Federal Rule

Postby Lumpy on Thu Dec 29, 2022 12:22 pm

They won't be happy until* pointing your finger at someone and going "Pew-Pew!" counts as armed assault.

*and quite possibly not even then.
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Re: A.T.F. Moves to Close ‘Ghost Guns’ Loophole in Federal Rule

Postby Holland&Holland on Thu Dec 29, 2022 1:53 pm

Lumpy wrote:They won't be happy until* pointing your finger at someone and going "Pew-Pew!" counts as armed assault.

*and quite possibly not even then.

Some places that is already the case.
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Re: A.T.F. Moves to Close ‘Ghost Guns’ Loophole in Federal Rule

Postby xd ED on Thu Dec 29, 2022 2:02 pm

Holland&Holland wrote:
Lumpy wrote:They won't be happy until* pointing your finger at someone and going "Pew-Pew!" counts as armed assault.

*and quite possibly not even then.

Some places that is already the case.


Yup. At least one grade school kid has been expelled for ‘shooting’ another student with their thumb and index finger. Not sure if that was as serious a violation as the kid who used a fish stick for the gun barrel and got booted from school.
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Re: A.T.F. Moves to Close ‘Ghost Guns’ Loophole in Federal Rule

Postby Holland&Holland on Thu Dec 29, 2022 11:36 pm

Wasn’t there one who ate their piece of cheese into a gun like shape and was expelled too?
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Re: A.T.F. Moves to Close ‘Ghost Guns’ Loophole in Federal Rule

Postby Chunkychuck on Fri Dec 30, 2022 1:23 pm

Holland&Holland wrote:Wasn’t there one who ate their piece of cheese into a gun like shape and was expelled too?

I thought it was a PopTart.
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Re: A.T.F. Moves to Close ‘Ghost Guns’ Loophole in Federal Rule

Postby Holland&Holland on Fri Dec 30, 2022 5:37 pm

Chunkychuck wrote:
Holland&Holland wrote:Wasn’t there one who ate their piece of cheese into a gun like shape and was expelled too?

I thought it was a PopTart.

You could be right, I have a hard time keeping my tactical foods straight.
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Re: A.T.F. Moves to Close ‘Ghost Guns’ Loophole in Federal Rule

Postby Lumpy on Fri Dec 30, 2022 7:35 pm

And yet somehow deeply disturbed teenagers get overlooked until they snap, while the school administrations waste their time with this pseudo-pacifist BS.
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