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Minnesota reports 38% drop in new gun permits

Postby xd ED on Thu Mar 02, 2023 9:24 am

After two record years, Minnesota reports 38% drop in new gun permits in 2022 - Twin Cities.com

The number of permits to carry a firearm issued by Minnesota sheriffs dropped significantly in 2022 after two record years in a row.

Last year, 65,257 Minnesotans obtained a permit to carry, down more than 38% from the all-time record of 106,000 in 2021, according to the annual permit-to-carry report released Wednesday by the state Bureau of Criminal Apprehension.

Minnesota saw a surge in the number of permits issued in 2020, a year marked by the beginning of the COVID-19 pandemic, civil unrest and a rise in violent crime. A total of 96,554 were issued in 2020. Previously, sheriffs had issued anywhere from 40,000 to 70,000 permits yearly
The pandemic-era trend appears to be easing. Rural and urban counties saw significant decreases in the number of permits issued. Hennepin County, the state’s most populous with more than 1.2 million people, issued about 8,600 permits last year. Compare that to more than 16,000 in 2021.

In rural Polk County in northwestern Minnesota, the sheriff issued 363 permits last year; in 2021, that county issued 690. Olmsted, St. Louis, Clay and Beltrami counties also saw a significant drop in permits issued.

As of the report’s release date, there are 395,626 valid permits to carry a firearm in the state of Minnesota. That’s up from 387,013 the year before.

In 2022, sheriffs suspended 177 permits, revoked 27, voided 1,414 and denied 866. There were four reported incidents of lawful and justifiable use of firearms by permit holders.....


One can assume there is a cyclical nature to the annual number of permit applications - which include renewals, given the 5 year life of the Minnesota Permit To Carry (MN PTC), and the fact that there were high numbers of permits originally issued in specific years.
That responsible citizens were getting trained, acquiring MN PTCs, and arming themselves given the local criminal uprising, and breakdown of civility and Law Enforcement following George Floyd's death is certainly no secret.
In spite of the headline's message, there are nearly 9000 more active MN PTCs reported by the current BCA document.
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Re: Minnesota reports 38% drop in new gun permits

Postby westhope on Thu Mar 02, 2023 4:42 pm

Terrible headline reporting of the data.
The number of 2022 permits issued was similar to the number of permits issued for 2017, 2018,and 2019 after a record number of permits were issued for 2020 and 2021. The headline is just terrible reporting. Sensationalized reporting.

What the headline should read is "After record high levels of Permits To Carry issued in 2020 and 2021, the number of Permits To Carry is back to a similar level of previous years."

Minnesota saw a significant drop in the number of firearms permit applications and issuances after historic highs over the past two years. Minnesota sheriffs reported to the BCA that 70,443 permits were applied for and that they issued 65,257 permits in 2022.

​Year ​Permits Issued ​
2022 ​ 65,257 ​
2021 ​106,488
​2020 ​96,554
​2019 ​ 51,404
​2018 ​66,053
​2017 ​55,069


The above is the data from the recent 2022 MN BCA annual report released 3/1/2023.

Full report can be found here:
https://dps.mn.gov/divisions/ooc/news-releases/Pages/BCA-Releases-2022-Permit-to-Carry-Annual-Report.aspx

The MN BCA press release claiming the 38 % drop can be found here:
https://dps.mn.gov/divisions/bca/bca-divisions/administrative/Documents/2022-Permit-to-Carry-Report.pdf

The report did state four (4) justified Defensive Gun Uses were recorded in MN in 2022.
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Re: Minnesota reports 38% drop in new gun permits

Postby Rip Van Winkle on Fri Mar 03, 2023 7:58 am

The headline is purposefully misleading to make it look as though the total number of permits has declined, so there's no reason for you to get one.
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Re: Minnesota reports 38% drop in new gun permits

Postby westhope on Fri Mar 03, 2023 8:51 am

WCCO (4) news only reported with the 38 % drop in PTCs in 2022. No further reporting of the BCA data.

KSTP (5) news reported that the levels of PTCs issued in 2022 were back to the levels of previous years after record levels of PTCs issued in 2020 & 2021.

Big difference in the bias of news reporting to me. One station only reports on the inflammatory headline from the BCA. One station takes time to actually read the BCA full press release and actually reports the trend in the data.
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Re: Minnesota reports 38% drop in new gun permits

Postby crbutler on Fri Mar 03, 2023 4:52 pm

What will be interesting is to see if the increased holders renew or not.

It looks like they had about 10k increase compared to 5 years before. New vs. renewal.
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Re: Minnesota reports 38% drop in new gun permits

Postby Holland&Holland on Sat Mar 04, 2023 11:12 am

westhope wrote:WCCO (4) news only reported with the 38 % drop in PTCs in 2022. No further reporting of the BCA data.

KSTP (5) news reported that the levels of PTCs issued in 2022 were back to the levels of previous years after record levels of PTCs issued in 2020 & 2021.

Big difference in the bias of news reporting to me. One station only reports on the inflammatory headline from the BCA. One station takes time to actually read the BCA full press release and actually reports the trend in the data.

News reporting never represents news or reporting these days.
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Re: Minnesota reports 38% drop in new gun permits

Postby cobb on Mon Mar 06, 2023 7:24 pm

Doing permit to carry classes, usually 70-80 % are renewals and the rest new in my experience. With the Minneapolis riots I had a big spike in people attending classes, had to add several classes to meet the demand and for those classes it was 60% or more for a new permit, renewals less than 40%.
So, the years that are reported as a peak and then used as a base to claim there is a decline I do not see as valid.
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Re: Minnesota reports 38% drop in new gun permits

Postby Holland&Holland on Tue Mar 07, 2023 7:27 am

Wait 5 years, carry permit renewals will spike.
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Re: Minnesota reports 38% drop in new gun permits

Postby jdege on Tue Mar 07, 2023 10:47 am

Holland&Holland wrote:Wait 5 years, carry permit renewals will spike.

2003 - 2008 - 2013 - 2018 - 2023

Yep. For all us old farts it's cycled around again.
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Re: Minnesota reports 38% drop in new gun permits

Postby westhope on Tue Mar 07, 2023 2:50 pm

2003 - 2008 - 2013 - 2018 - 2023

Yep. For all us old farts it's cycled around again.


Yes that time has come around again. Should send a reminder to everyone of us.

It doesn't seem possible that it has been 20 years since we passed "Shall Issue" in 2003. It would never pass in this administration with the Metro controlling the DFL caucuses and Governor. Thanks again to the CCRN group.
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Re: Minnesota reports 38% drop in new gun permits

Postby daleamn on Wed Mar 08, 2023 12:52 am

I bet most concealed carry folk here remember the debate in the Minnesota legislature where the DFL opponents of the bill donned bomb squad protective gear (not a flak vest or even a police vest but the blue bomb squad thing with the high collar) to argue that it would usher in the wild, wild west and the streets would run red. They handed it off to each other before getting up to speak against the bill...it was political theater at its best (or worst?) and at the same time disgusting and hilarious.

I'll certainly admit gun play is up but it sure isn't the concealed carry permit holders that are doing it.
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Re: Minnesota reports 38% drop in new gun permits

Postby Lumpy on Wed Mar 08, 2023 12:06 pm

Gun control seems predicated on the presumption that everyone is one heated argument and one gun away from committing murder. Seriously, is the inner city underclass the model of what leftists expect or even want society to be like? Too immature and irresponsible to be trusted with self-defense, and utterly dependent on the system to take care of them?
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Re: Minnesota reports 38% drop in new gun permits

Postby jdege on Wed Mar 08, 2023 1:13 pm

Lumpy wrote:Gun control seems predicated on the presumption that everyone is one heated argument and one gun away from committing murder. Seriously, is the inner city underclass the model of what leftists expect or even want society to be like? Too immature and irresponsible to be trusted with self-defense, and utterly dependent on the system to take care of them?

It's what leftists are like, and they project their own self-made on others.
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