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Prevent gun violence? Treat it as a public health issue.

Postby Markemp on Fri May 12, 2023 9:40 am

https://www.npr.org/2023/05/12/11731415 ... lic-health

Some great ideas in here about how to reduce the number of gun deaths.

When it comes to gun violence, Dr. Prothrow-Stith says the primary phase should be raising awareness and trying to increase safety.

The secondary phase is about understanding the risk factors. "How do we help children who are hurt, either because they're victims of violence or they're witnessing violence, especially domestic violence or gang violence, on a regular basis?" she asks. "How do we help them heal from the anger, the guilt, the pain, but also give them the strategies to move forward?"

Programs like "Big Brothers Big Sisters" are a great example of a secondary intervention because they give kids distractions, purpose and opportunities. Don't underestimate the power of staying busy, Dr. Prothrow-Stith adds.


Spend money on programs that actually make a difference. 2/3rds of gun deaths are suicides, so if we can take a meaningful chunk out of that number by giving people the support they need, it'll be a huge benefit to America.

I disagree with the point about restarting the assault weapon ban though. I'd prefer stricter licensing requirements around semi-auto rifles with detachable magazines and handguns, or some other set of rules like that. An outright ban takes away my rights, and I won't put up with that.
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Re: Prevent gun violence? Treat it as a public health issue.

Postby crbutler on Fri May 12, 2023 11:23 am

Being in the medical field, the last thing you want is it being treated like public health.

Suffice it to say, it becomes controlled by a group of politically activist academics who are not allowed to be questioned using flawed statistics to make poorly supported claims.

The CDC and NIH were banned from gun violence studies because they were caught lying.

Most public health recommendations are grade C recommendations- “consensus of expert opinion.”
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Postby Jackpine Savage on Fri May 12, 2023 12:46 pm

One of the Left's favorite tactics, conflating gun violence and suicide.

Gun ownership per capita does not correlate to suicide per capita. The gun is merely a convenient tool for some.

We do have a mental health crisis.
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Postby jdege on Fri May 12, 2023 1:03 pm

There is one and only one reason that gun violence has become a public health issue - and that's because public health is the only field in which the standard of peer review is so poor as to allow the gun control zealots' politically motivated claptrap to be published.

Fifty years ago, the push was to push gun control through criminology and sociology. But the criminologists and sociologists did honest science, and found that gun control doesn't work.

Public health, though, has been corrupted by commercial interests from the start, whether it's been Post Cereals funding Harvard's School of Public Health so they could "prove" that a diet high in sugar and processed grains was healthy, or Proctor and Gamble buying the American Medical Association, so they could push the idea that partially-hydrogenated cotton seed oil reduced the risk of heart attack, or big pharma and statins.

And don't even get me started on COVID.

Public health is a scientific disaster, and is largely responsible for the obesity epidemic.

Pretending that they have anything meaningful to say about gun violence is absurd.
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Postby IvanTheTerribleShot on Fri May 12, 2023 2:57 pm

Markemp wrote:https://www.npr.org/2023/05/12/1173141518/gun-violence-prevention-public-health
Spend money on programs that actually make a difference. 2/3rds of gun deaths are suicides, so if we can take a meaningful chunk out of that number by giving people the support they need, it'll be a huge benefit to America.


... and stop calling it "gun violence". Call it what it is, "suicide prevention". (How can one do it simultaneously promoting euthanasia?)
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Postby Lumpy on Fri May 12, 2023 7:15 pm

The public health sector seems to believe that firearms are epidemiological vectors of injury and death, despite the fact that gun crime and violence are NOT randomly distributed throughout the gun-owning population. But simple "solutions" appeal to simple people: "Guns spread death like mosquitoes spread malaria! Get rid of them!"
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Postby Holland&Holland on Fri May 12, 2023 8:28 pm

crbutler wrote:Being in the medical field, the last thing you want is it being treated like public health.

Suffice it to say, it becomes controlled by a group of politically activist academics who are not allowed to be questioned using flawed statistics to make poorly supported claims.

The CDC and NIH were banned from gun violence studies because they were caught lying.

Most public health recommendations are grade C recommendations- “consensus of expert opinion.”

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