Poll: Curbing gun violence is more import than gun rights

[Markemp]

https://www.npr.org/2023/05/24/11777791 ... gun-rights

The highest percentage of Americans in a decade say they think it's more important to curb gun violence than protect gun rights, according to a new NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist poll.

The finding comes a year after the mass shooting at an elementary school in Uvalde, Texas, the second-deadliest in American history. Multiple other mass shootings that have taken place in the time since that one.

But the survey of almost 1,300 adults also shows Americans' views on guns are mixed, with little consensus on what to do about gun violence.

Really good article on NPR about the latest NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist poll. It's interesting to watch the slow but steady progress as attitudes shift on this topic over the past decade.

[Holland&Holland]

https://www.npr.org/2023/05/24/1177779153/poll-most-americans-say-curbing-gun-violence-is-more-important-than-gun-rights

The highest percentage of Americans in a decade say they think it's more important to curb gun violence than protect gun rights, according to a new NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist poll.

The finding comes a year after the mass shooting at an elementary school in Uvalde, Texas, the second-deadliest in American history. Multiple other mass shootings that have taken place in the time since that one.

But the survey of almost 1,300 adults also shows Americans' views on guns are mixed, with little consensus on what to do about gun violence.

Really good article on NPR about the latest NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist poll. It's interesting to watch the slow but steady progress as attitudes shift on this topic over the past decade.

Once again. You are the one asking why we are "divisive" and "what rights do you want to infringe on" yet everything you post is exactly why we feel backed into a corner, makes it clear you do NOT in any way value our values, position, or rights and proves that the end result of the left is a curtailment of freedoms.

[Bearcatrp]

Anything on NPR is democratic socialism BS. You are obviously on this web site to spread your democrat views. Go move on to web site that supports your views. This site does not!

[Lumpy]

Seriously Markemp or whoever you really are, why are you even on this board? At this point you've gone far beyond anything that could reasonably be called a "debate" and are simply trolling for a position that's antithetical to the purpose of this board. Yes there are antis who think gun control is wonderful; one can hardly go anywhere online and not encounter them. If we wanted to hear more gun control propaganda we have plenty of other opportunities.

[IvanTheTerribleShot]

Really good article on NPR about the latest NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist poll. It's interesting to watch the slow but steady progress as attitudes shift on this topic over the past decade.

There was always a category of people interested in trading essential liberties for a little temporary safety. It would be sad if that category was increasing; if such polls weren't a sleight of hands, that is.

[xd ED]

Seriously Markemp or whoever you really are, why are you even on this board? At this point you've gone far beyond anything that could reasonably be called a "debate" and are simply trolling for a position that's antithetical to the purpose of this board. Yes there are antis who think gun control is wonderful; one can hardly go anywhere online and not encounter them. If we wanted to hear more gun control propaganda we have plenty of other opportunities.

He's on the board to troll, and hook responses using shopworn, refuted talking points, and incredulous sources.

When the responses stop, like an unwatered weed, he/ she/ it/ they will disappear.

[Holland&Holland]

Seriously Markemp or whoever you really are, why are you even on this board? At this point you've gone far beyond anything that could reasonably be called a "debate" and are simply trolling for a position that's antithetical to the purpose of this board. Yes there are antis who think gun control is wonderful; one can hardly go anywhere online and not encounter them. If we wanted to hear more gun control propaganda we have plenty of other opportunities.

He's on the board to troll, and hook responses using shopworn, refuted talking points, and incredulous sources.

When the responses stop, like an unwatered weed, he/ she/ it/ they will disappear.

What is shopworm? Not up to speed on this interweb stuff.

[xd ED]

Seriously Markemp or whoever you really are, why are you even on this board? At this point you've gone far beyond anything that could reasonably be called a "debate" and are simply trolling for a position that's antithetical to the purpose of this board. Yes there are antis who think gun control is wonderful; one can hardly go anywhere online and not encounter them. If we wanted to hear more gun control propaganda we have plenty of other opportunities.

He's on the board to troll, and hook responses using shopworn, refuted talking points, and incredulous sources.

When the responses stop, like an unwatered weed, he/ she/ it/ they will disappear.

What is shopworm? Not up to speed on this interweb stuff.

I'm here to help.

[IvanTheTerribleShot]

He's on the board to troll, and hook responses using shopworn, refuted talking points, and incredulous sources.

I am not 100% convinced about trolling as primary motive. Might be sincere, authentic behavior; I find it mildly entertaining.

[DanM]

Easy enough to set someone's postings to not be shown. Problem solved.

[Markemp]

He's on the board to troll, and hook responses using shopworn, refuted talking points, and incredulous sources.

I am not 100% convinced about trolling as primary motive. Might be sincere, authentic behavior; I find it mildly entertaining.

I am sincere and authentic. I was originally asked what my (or people like me) opinion is, and I’m happy to oblige. Good, healthy and respectful debate is the cornerstone of a strong democracy. Echo chambers don’t help, as all it does is reinforce misinformation and distrust.

[Holland&Holland]

Ah, got it. A term I was not familiar with. I assumed it was a program to pull quotes from other sites and use them nefariously.

I guess my trust level of the left leaning factions of our society is quite low.

[jdege]

Response rates in telephone surveys have resumed their decline

[Markemp]

Response rates in telephone surveys have resumed their decline

Not sure you actually read that article.

But low response rates don’t necessarily mean that telephone polling is completely broken. Studies examining the impact of low response on data quality have generally found that response rates are an unreliable metric of accuracy. Pew Research Center studies conducted in 1997, 2003, 2012 and 2016 found little relationship between response rates and accuracy, and other researchers have found similar results. In the 2018 midterm election, polls – including those conducted by phone with live interviewers – performed well by historical standards. Nonpartisan polls in 2018 were more accurate, on average, than midterm polls since 1998.

[Markemp]

Seriously Markemp or whoever you really are, why are you even on this board? At this point you've gone far beyond anything that could reasonably be called a "debate" and are simply trolling for a position that's antithetical to the purpose of this board. Yes there are antis who think gun control is wonderful; one can hardly go anywhere online and not encounter them. If we wanted to hear more gun control propaganda we have plenty of other opportunities.

Honestly, I’m surprised most of all that you of all people replied like this. You just posted within the last couple of weeks that you had a fight with your brother about this very topic. This is hard evidence showing that he is right. I think you owe him an apology.

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I had a "discussion" (argument) with my brother today who insists that "public opinion is changing" with respect to support for gun control even in traditionally pro-gun states. Along with the oft-repeated claim of "80% of Americans are in favor of passing new firearms laws" like Red Flag, background checks, magazine limits, etc. I tried to explain that to the best of my research all these claims have to be qualified, that gun control proponents routinely exaggerate their support if not outright lie, and that it's not that cut-and-dried. He basically accused me of sticking my head in the sand, ignoring widespread credible reporting, and only listening to "NRA propaganda".