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The father and his wife were in bed in their Carmichael, California, apartment Sunday morning when 33-year-old Alonzo Brown came looking for his girlfriend around 1:00 a.m., CBS News reported.

Brown’s girlfriend was not in the apartment, but he believed she was, so he allegedly began trying to kick in the door.

He then allegedly looked into the bedroom window, where he and the wife “made eye contact,” after which Brown allegedly opened fire, shattering glass.

The wife said, “He saw me and we made eye contact and the next thing I know I am jumping out of bed because the glass is breaking,”

The husband retrieved his gun and returned fire, striking Brown with an unknown number of rounds.

Markemp wrote:Great example on why people should be allowed to own guns for self defense. You never know when you will need one.

Markemp wrote:Great example on why people should be allowed to own guns for self defense. You never know when you will need one.

Jackpine Savage wrote:Yep. So thankful that I live in a Republic, and that the Bill of Rights was adopted. Though in the end, the commies seem to be succeeding in tearing it all down. We lived in the best of times.

Markemp wrote:You do realize that the constitution can be amended, right? We are allowed to have guns as long as the second amendment isn’t overturned. We should work to prevent that from happening of course, but your “right” is given to you by the people not taking it away.

It’s literally called the second amendment.

Jackpine Savage wrote:Where do you stand on the Left's call to expand the Supreme Court?

jdege wrote:

Markemp wrote:You do realize that the constitution can be amended, right? We are allowed to have guns as long as the second amendment isn’t overturned. We should work to prevent that from happening of course, but your “right” is given to you by the people not taking it away.

It’s literally called the second amendment.

The IRKBA existed prior to the ratification of the Second, and would continue to exist were it repealed.

crbutler wrote:Kind of agree and disagree.

I assume the argument is that it’s a natural law that you have the right to defend yourself. I buy that.

But I also look around the world as see places like the UK, where if you defend yourself you end up in prison.

jdege wrote:

Markemp wrote:You do realize that the constitution can be amended, right? We are allowed to have guns as long as the second amendment isn’t overturned. We should work to prevent that from happening of course, but your “right” is given to you by the people not taking it away.

It’s literally called the second amendment.

The IRKBA existed prior to the ratification of the Second, and would continue to exist were it repealed.

IvanTheTerribleShot wrote:

jdege wrote:

Markemp wrote:You do realize that the constitution can be amended, right? We are allowed to have guns as long as the second amendment isn’t overturned. We should work to prevent that from happening of course, but your “right” is given to you by the people not taking it away.

It’s literally called the second amendment.

The IRKBA existed prior to the ratification of the Second, and would continue to exist were it repealed.

It's actually a deep philosophical issue, even religious. Markemp has a point.
It's very hard to make an atheist to respect a God-given right.
“Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.” (John Adams, 1798.)

In a world where there is no God, the government is a god; too important a role to be left vacant, and the government is usually the mightiest entity to claim it. Take it from someone born and raised in the USSR. And, being a god, it grants and takes rights privileges as it wills; mostly takes.