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Minnesota Adopts the Illinois Model of Assault Weapon Bans

Postby jdege on Fri Feb 16, 2024 8:55 am



HF 3628

(b) Semiautomatic military-style assault weapon also includes any:
(1) semiautomatic rifle that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and has
one or more of the following:
(i) a pistol grip or thumbhole stock;
(ii) any feature capable of functioning as a protruding grip that can be held by the
nontrigger hand;
(iii) a folding or telescoping stock; or
(iv) a shroud attached to the barrel, or that partially or completely encircles the barrel,
allowing the bearer to hold the firearm with the nontrigger hand without being burned, but
excluding a slide that encloses the barrel;
(2) semiautomatic pistol, or any semiautomatic, centerfire, or rimfire rifle with a fixed
magazine that has the capacity to accept more than ten rounds of ammunition;
(3) semiautomatic pistol that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and has
one or more of the following:
(i) any feature capable of functioning as a protruding grip that can be held by the
nontrigger hand;
(ii) a folding, telescoping, or thumbhole stock;
(iii) a shroud attached to the barrel, or that partially or completely encircles the barrel,
allowing the bearer to hold the firearm with the nontrigger hand without being burned, but
excluding a slide that encloses the barrel; or
(iv) the capacity to accept a detachable magazine at any location outside of the pistol
grip;
(4) semiautomatic shotgun that has one or more of the following:
(i) a pistol grip or thumbhole stock;
(ii) any feature capable of functioning as a protruding grip that can be held by the
nontrigger hand;
(iii) a folding or telescoping stock;
(iv) a fixed magazine capacity in excess of ten rounds; or
(v) an ability to accept a detachable magazine;
(5) shotgun with a revolving cylinder; or
(6) conversion kit, part, or combination of parts, from which an assault weapon can be
assembled if those parts are in the possession or under the control of the same person.
Semiautomatic military-style assault weapon does not mean any firearm described in this
paragraph that has been made permanently inoperable.
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Re: Minnesota Adopts the Illinois Model of Assault Weapon Bans

Postby westhope on Fri Feb 16, 2024 9:19 am

See also HF3570. Similar bill with authors: Finke ; Agbaje ; Kozlowski ; Kraft ; Sencer-Mura.

https://www.revisor.mn.gov/bills/bill.php?f=HF3570&b=house&y=2024&ssn=0
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Re: Minnesota Adopts the Illinois Model of Assault Weapon Bans

Postby OldmanFCSA on Fri Feb 16, 2024 12:12 pm

[b} I see this as the Creation of a new Class of Criminals in Minnesota.[/b]

Will you have the same Rights as Current Criminals with get out of jail free cards?

I'm ordering a large magnet as I expect mass fishing accidents to occur.






(Please tell where and when so my magnet can retrieve before any corrosion happens. Plus I need to buy a boat.)
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Re: Minnesota Adopts the Illinois Model of Assault Weapon Bans

Postby bstrawse on Fri Feb 16, 2024 3:22 pm

OldmanFCSA wrote:[b} I see this as the Creation of a new Class of Criminals in Minnesota.[/b]

Will you have the same Rights as Current Criminals with get out of jail free cards?

I'm ordering a large magnet as I expect mass fishing accidents to occur.






(Please tell where and when so my magnet can retrieve before any corrosion happens. Plus I need to buy a boat.)


Or you could get a "I didn't lose ****" sticker.

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Re: Minnesota Adopts the Illinois Model of Assault Weapon Bans

Postby Holland&Holland on Fri Feb 16, 2024 6:01 pm

Eff it. I am at, " you can pry it from my cold dead hands"
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Re: Minnesota Adopts the Illinois Model of Assault Weapon Bans

Postby Bearcatrp on Fri Feb 16, 2024 6:09 pm

Holland&Holland wrote:Eff it. I am at, " you can pry it from my cold dead hands"

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Re: Minnesota Adopts the Illinois Model of Assault Weapon Bans

Postby Markemp on Sat Feb 17, 2024 8:01 am

Interesting. Looks like my Springfield M1A is safe, but I'd have to ditch my 20 round magazines. But overall a dumb law and I hope it doesn't pass. My guess is it won't go anywhere this year, for obvious reasons.
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Re: Minnesota Adopts the Illinois Model of Assault Weapon Bans

Postby Jackpine Savage on Sat Feb 17, 2024 10:56 am

Markemp wrote:But overall a dumb law


Notice who is proposing those 'dumb laws' yet? Still voting for them?
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Re: Minnesota Adopts the Illinois Model of Assault Weapon Bans

Postby Holland&Holland on Sat Feb 17, 2024 11:00 am

Markemp wrote:Interesting. Looks like my Springfield M1A is safe, but I'd have to ditch my 20 round magazines. But overall a dumb law and I hope it doesn't pass. My guess is it won't go anywhere this year, for obvious reasons.

How is it safe? It CAN accept 20 rounders.
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Re: Minnesota Adopts the Illinois Model of Assault Weapon Bans

Postby westhope on Sat Feb 17, 2024 12:57 pm

Markemp wrote:Interesting. Looks like my Springfield M1A is safe, but I'd have to ditch my 20 round magazines. But overall a dumb law and I hope it doesn't pass. My guess is it won't go anywhere this year, for obvious reasons.


I don't think so:

b) Semiautomatic military-style assault weapon also includes any:
(1) semiautomatic rifle that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and has
one or more of the following:

(iv) a shroud attached to the barrel, or that partially or completely encircles the barrel,
allowing the bearer to hold the firearm with the non-trigger hand without being burned,


Would also include M1 Carbines. M1's should be OK. (For now.)
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Re: Minnesota Adopts the Illinois Model of Assault Weapon Bans

Postby moondog on Sat Feb 17, 2024 2:59 pm

So under section (2), rimfire rifle with fixed magazine that holds more than 10 rounds, does that then make a tubular magazine rifle such as a Nylon 66 an assault rifle?
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Re: Minnesota Adopts the Illinois Model of Assault Weapon Bans

Postby westhope on Sat Feb 17, 2024 3:13 pm

moondog wrote:So under section (2), rimfire rifle with fixed magazine that holds more than 10 rounds, does that then make a tubular magazine rifle such as a Nylon 66 an assault rifle?


Large-capacity magazine does
not mean any of the following:
(1) a feeding device that has been permanently altered so that it cannot accommodate
more than ten rounds;
(2) a .22 caliber tube ammunition feeding device; or
(3) a tubular magazine that is contained in a lever-action firearm.


Probably not.
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Re: Minnesota Adopts the Illinois Model of Assault Weapon Bans

Postby Lumpy on Sat Feb 17, 2024 9:43 pm

Aren't there cases working their way up to the Supreme Court of the US which have the potential to strike down all so-called "Assault Weapon" bans? Why would anyone even bother to try to pass a law that may well get struck down in the next year? (Other than virtue-signaling).

F*** it, I've decided that if necessary I'll be a scofflaw. At my age and health, the worst that could happen- a twenty year prison sentence- would be a retirement plan. And no I will not plea down; let's see them give 50,000 gun owners each a full trial by jury.
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Re: Minnesota Adopts the Illinois Model of Assault Weapon Bans

Postby Erud on Sun Feb 18, 2024 7:26 am

Markemp wrote:Interesting. Looks like my Springfield M1A is safe, but I'd have to ditch my 20 round magazines. But overall a dumb law and I hope it doesn't pass. My guess is it won't go anywhere this year, for obvious reasons.


You might think that it’s a dumb law, but laws and regulations preserve freedom by striking a balance among individuals' liberties.
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Re: Minnesota Adopts the Illinois Model of Assault Weapon Bans

Postby Markemp on Sun Feb 18, 2024 7:37 am

Jackpine Savage wrote:
Markemp wrote:But overall a dumb law


Notice who is proposing those 'dumb laws' yet? Still voting for them?


I'm not a single issue voter. But I will vote in the primaries against those who propose gun laws like this.
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