MN Supreme Court Rules on Serial Numbers

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MN Supreme Court Rules on Serial Numbers

Postby xd ED on Wed Aug 06, 2025 3:07 pm

Taken from the Minnesota Gun Owners Caucus Facebook page:

In a case we've been watching for two years, the MN Supreme Court ruled today in State v. Vagle that MN statutes only require a serial number on a firearm when the firearm must have a serial number under federal law.
This case will have broad implications for dozens of prosecutions across the state where individuals have been charged with felony crimes for possessing a personally manufactured firearm without a serial number.
This is a big win for 2A in Minnesota and clarifies an area of state statute that prosecutors, the AG, and the anti-gun clinic at the UMN law school have been misinterpreting for years.
Read the full decision:
State of Minnesota vs Logan Hunter Vagle

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Re: MN Supreme Court Rules on Serial Numbers

Postby jdege on Wed Aug 06, 2025 3:25 pm

It's sad when we have to celebrate courts being able to read and understand the plain text of the statute.
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Re: MN Supreme Court Rules on Serial Numbers

Postby xd ED on Wed Aug 06, 2025 3:38 pm

jdege wrote:It's sad when we have to celebrate courts being able to read and understand the plain text of the statute.


So true.
I wonder if the state’s behavior reaches the point where civil damages are to be considered.
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Re: MN Supreme Court Rules on Serial Numbers

Postby Jackpine Savage on Wed Aug 06, 2025 4:04 pm

Took them long enough. I'm sure they worked really hard to come up with some convoluted legal argument to make serial numbers required. I am frankly surprised that they didn't.
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Re: MN Supreme Court Rules on Serial Numbers

Postby Sorcerer on Wed Aug 06, 2025 9:14 pm

When the Minnesota AG is nothing more than an ambulance chaser ……… :roll:
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Re: MN Supreme Court Rules on Serial Numbers

Postby Jackpine Savage on Thu Aug 07, 2025 10:36 am

jdege wrote:It's sad when we have to celebrate courts being able to read and understand the plain text of the statute.


It appears that at least two, including the chief justice, can't read :shock: The third either wasn't interested, protesting, or something?
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Re: MN Supreme Court Rules on Serial Numbers

Postby atomic41 on Thu Aug 07, 2025 11:47 am

xd ED wrote:Taken from the Minnesota Gun Owners Caucus Facebook page:

In a case we've been watching for two years, the MN Supreme Court ruled today in State v. Vagle that MN statutes only require a serial number on a firearm when the firearm must have a serial number under federal law.
This case will have broad implications for dozens of prosecutions across the state where individuals have been charged with felony crimes for possessing a personally manufactured firearm without a serial number.
This is a big win for 2A in Minnesota and clarifies an area of state statute that prosecutors, the AG, and the anti-gun clinic at the UMN law school have been misinterpreting for years.
Read the full decision:
State of Minnesota vs Logan Hunter Vagle

:cheers:


No, they were not "misinterpreting". This was deliberate lawfare using a perversion of the plaint text language to diminish our rights. The end goal is total 100% civilian disarmament and unless that is clearly confronted then we will always be fighting from behind.
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Re: MN Supreme Court Rules on Serial Numbers

Postby bstrawse on Thu Aug 07, 2025 12:43 pm

Jackpine Savage wrote:
jdege wrote:It's sad when we have to celebrate courts being able to read and understand the plain text of the statute.


It appears that at least two, including the chief justice, can't read :shock: The third either wasn't interested, protesting, or something?


Justice Gaitas recused herself because she had ruled on this case when she was a judge on the Court of Appeals, so she was conflicted. Under the rules of the MN Supreme Court, she properly recused herself. Nothing more than that.
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Re: MN Supreme Court Rules on Serial Numbers

Postby Lumpy on Thu Aug 07, 2025 2:59 pm

If Second Amendment rights keep getting upheld, at some point I expect someone on the Left to declare that a "right to life" supersedes the 2nd altogether. :roll:
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