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Had a couple questions, hope I came to the right place

Postby MNGardetto on Sat Jan 14, 2012 12:52 pm

My experience with handguns does not go beyond 3-5 visits to a gun range and an introductory class to handguns.

In the near future, I hope to purchase my first handgun and if I get comfortable with it I might go for a carry permit.

The laws still have me a bit confused and I'm sure once I search this forum I will get most of my questions answered.

I understand getting a permit to buy and going into a store to purchase a handgun but I am confused about the process when buying a gun online and shipping to an FFL or the process necessary to buy a gun from a gun show.
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Postby Shipyard on Sat Jan 14, 2012 1:23 pm

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Re: Had a couple questions, hope I came to the right place

Postby carver952 on Sat Jan 14, 2012 2:00 pm

A. For an online purchase, here are the steps.
1. Find a local FFL and confirm they process internet transfers.
http://www.fflfinder.com or http://www.gunsamerica.com/FFLSearch.htm
2. Let the local FFL know what is coming and when to expect it.
https://www.atfonline.gov/fflezcheck/
3. They will have you fill out atf form 4473 page 1 for firearms transaction.
Caution: You can teach someone else to shoot or use the gun, but you must be the actual buyer, do NOT say you are buying for a gift to someone else.
4. They (FFL) will use page 2 to do the NICS and record the name/ID of the ATF contact running your NICS check
5. FFL will keep the paperwork in case they are asked for audit of sales.

B. Gun shows - no paperwork required to buy from a non-FFL private seller, but I recommend bill of sale just in case.
http://www.beararms.com/PDF/FTUP.pdf
If the seller is an FFL dealer, the same paperwork applies at the gun show as in the store.
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Re: Had a couple questions, hope I came to the right place

Postby MNGardetto on Sat Jan 14, 2012 2:35 pm

Thanks for the replies guys!

Do you not need a permit to buy to purchase and transfer a gun at a gun show?
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Re: Had a couple questions, hope I came to the right place

Postby westhope on Sat Jan 14, 2012 2:48 pm

MNGardetto wrote:Thanks for the replies guys!

Do you not need a permit to buy to purchase and transfer a gun at a gun show?



Gun shows do not change any laws concerning the sale of firearms in Minnesota.

If you are a firearms dealer (FFL) at a gun show or not, you must fill out a 4473.

If it is a private sale between individuals, at a gun show or not, you do not need to fill out a 4473.
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Postby DeanC on Sat Jan 14, 2012 3:39 pm

carver952 wrote: do NOT say you are buying for a gift to someone else.

Never had a problem with this. If it is a gift, you are the actual buyer. What you cannot do is take someone's money who is prohibited from buying one and act as an agent buying their gun with their money.
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Re: Had a couple questions, hope I came to the right place

Postby MNGardetto on Sun Jan 15, 2012 12:03 pm

You guys have been extremely helpful so far. Much appreciated.

I guess I'll ask my last outstanding question here instead of making a new thread.

My current address is in Saint Paul while my permanent address (on my license) is a Woodbury address. Where must I got to get a permit to purchase? Ramsey Sheriff, Woodbury PD?
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Postby grousemaster on Sun Jan 15, 2012 12:44 pm

MNGardetto wrote:You guys have been extremely helpful so far. Much appreciated.

I guess I'll ask my last outstanding question here instead of making a new thread.

My current address is in Saint Paul while my permanent address (on my license) is a Woodbury address. Where must I got to get a permit to purchase? Ramsey Sheriff, Woodbury PD?


Your license needs to have your correct (permanent) address on it as far as I know.
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Re: Had a couple questions, hope I came to the right place

Postby MNGardetto on Sun Jan 15, 2012 1:31 pm

Since my permanent address is in Woodbury, I'll have to go to Woodbury PD or Washington County Sheriff?
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Postby bstrawse on Sun Jan 15, 2012 3:05 pm

MNGardetto wrote:Since my permanent address is in Woodbury, I'll have to go to Woodbury PD or Washington County Sheriff?


Woodbury PD

I live in Woodbury - they're quite service oriented - you won't have any issues.
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Re: Had a couple questions, hope I came to the right place

Postby Thunderjohn on Sun Jan 15, 2012 10:29 pm

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Re: Had a couple questions, hope I came to the right place

Postby yang on Tue Jan 17, 2012 7:21 am

Welcome from White Bear Lake!

Obtain your permit to purchase @ Woodbury Police Department.

Here is link to Permit to Purchase:

https://dps.mn.gov/divisions/bca/bca-di ... armApp.pdf

Fill it out ahead of time.
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Re: Had a couple questions, hope I came to the right place

Postby Pezhead on Tue Jan 17, 2012 1:53 pm

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Re: Had a couple questions, hope I came to the right place

Postby hornswaggle on Tue Jan 17, 2012 2:39 pm

Welcome aboard! When you get your new gun get lots of ammo and a membership at a local club or range ;)
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Re: Had a couple questions, hope I came to the right place

Postby MNGardetto on Tue Jan 17, 2012 5:15 pm

Thanks again for all the nice welcomes. I filed the application for the permit to purchase. Thanks for the help so far.
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