halvey wrote:Thanks for the info on Rice Creek. I may have to check it out. Would you happen to know if there were any dealers with integral guns? Those look interesting.
I agree about trying these out at shooting shows though. I was hard to get a feel for them when I was at Ahlmans. And with the limiters on cell phone video and the compression on You tube, very different sound.
Ah, maybe a get together is in order?
Squib Joe wrote:I'd only go with an integral in a 22LR rimfire rifle. There is a big difference in a full baffled barrel and a screw on rimfire can
Sigfan220 wrote:Squib Joe wrote:I'd only go with an integral in a 22LR rimfire rifle. There is a big difference in a full baffled barrel and a screw on rimfire can
Even when comparing similar barrel lengths? The advantage of the integrals is the typically run super short barrels and very long baffle stacks. I could see them being quieter than a 16" barreled gun but not verses say a 6" SBR. Rimfire cans with subsonic ammo are so ridiculously quiet I honestly can see the need for any more sound suppression. Especially when you take into account ease of cleaning.
silvor wrote:Have you guys tried out an integral .22? I hear that they are quieter, but then I hear when it's apples to apples, maybe only a dB or two. From what I am told, the porting will bring the bullet subsonic so there's no crack. So when comparing to subsonic ammo in a good screw on can, it's closer than you think.
I have tried out my Spectre II on a few different hosts, with different barrel lengths. What I have found is with subsonic ammo (and HV ammo out of a short barrel) there is no sonic crack. BUT, the shorter barrels still have the extra gas to suppress over say a 16" barrel.
I have a long barrel 10/22, short barrel Charger, Buckmark, M&P AR15-22 and a 16" bolt gun. The bolt gun is quieter by a lot. Even when I use CCI Standard in the short barrels, it is still quieter. I mean, that has to be going what, 900 fps tops out of the Buckmark.
There are videos on YouTube of suppressed 4" barrel Thompson contenders, and they still seem loud enough. Definitely not click quiet.
I am going to try out a long barrel bolt .22 and see what that does.
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