Best SHTF rifle

[farmerj]

I am getting that feeling too, more and more are falling on the premise that they can take what they need where they find it.

[JJ]

Back to the OP's topic. One of these:



To go with the rest of my Blocks

[White Horseradish]

Figure out what's the most probable threat in your life and plan from there. For most, it's prolonged unemployment. After that a weather related short term emergency (longer if a tornado wipes out your home).

So, what's the best rifle for prolonged unemployment?

[mrokern]

6-12 months living expenses in cash in the bank.

IMHO ... cash would be useless. Who will want paper when what you really want is basic needs ... food, shelter, clothing, & such.

I'd guess you've got a slight window to purchase items before everyone would realize that money was no good. Just be ready to blow it all very quickly at exorbitant rates.

As for taking items by force...I'm sure there would be plenty of that. Me, I'd prefer to meet my God with a clear conscience.

[Maniac117]

See, there is an answer for that.. Let them shoot first. If they don't shoot at you, they're good people. If not.. Relieve them of their gear!

Just saying.

[Dave Pendleton]

If you think you will need a ton of ammo for self-defense, you are living with the assumption that you would live through a firefight sustained enough to require lots of ammo.

If you think you can "bunker down" in the burbs, keep in mind a couple of monkeys could burn you out without taking a single casualty.

If you think you are going to be welcome "in the country" even though you know nobody out there, well, good luck to you.


As for the best rifle, it's the one you can hit with. Always and forever.

This.

I'm a reformed survivalist. I grew weary of the *********** crazies and guys jerking off while reading Lights Out.

I still have all the crap, just none of the crazy.

[45Badger]

This.

I'm a reformed survivalist. I grew weary of the *********** crazies and guys jerking off while reading Lights Out.

I still have all the crap, just none of the crazy.

Been on Frugals lately?

Anyway, I have less of the stuff, and even less of the crazies

[45Badger]

6-12 months living expenses in cash in the bank.

IMHO ... cash would be useless. Who will want paper when what you really want is basic needs ... food, shelter, clothing, & such.

It almost sounds like some may be planning to take what they need rather than prepare with what they need in the situation. Is that the plan or am I not ready posts correctly?

Juyst my $0.02
Flip

OK, my cash in the bank comment was for the SHTF that most are are most likely to encounter- long term unemployment (not post apocalypse).

Second, I'm with Mark. I'm not going to be "shopping with guns" or looting. Not the right thing to do and definitely impractical. I'lll break out the WillIe and Toby and get whiskey for my men, and beer for our horses

And now that I've sold a scope, I'll be putting expensive glass on my 700P. Sitting on a roof, sipping green label, and picking off looters or zombies at 600-800 yards

[Snowgun]

I would hightail it the hell out to my ranch in ND, keep shotguns for hunting and close up work, and the 50 BMG to deter those a long way off.

[Ironbear]

For most, it's prolonged unemployment.
...
6-12 months living expenses in cash in the bank.

From my perspective (having been there twice)... getting yourself out of debt makes that "living expenses" part a LOT easier.

[Dave Pendleton]

Umm, what is SHTF? There is some S Hing TF in Japan right now. Rifles seem to be low on the list of things they are finding useful.

Oh, and have you ever head of FerFAL? He's a guy who did a very nice writeup on SHTF in Argentina when their economy took a dive into the toilet. Rifles were low on his list as well.

For some reason I have this feeling that your anticipated scenario reads like what used to be called "books for boys" back in the day when people knew who Capt. Mayne Reade was.

I should also have given props to this post, as it is right on. I suggest you move your discussion to the ARFCOM SF or Frugal Squirrels.

You'll get maximum Derp there and plenty of fap material to keep you busy until the balloon goes up.

Fap on OP, fap on.

[archerychamp]

Umm, what is SHTF? There is some S Hing TF in Japan right now. Rifles seem to be low on the list of things they are finding useful.

Maybe that's because they have strict gun control in Japan and the citizens are not allowed to own firearms. That's pretty effing easy to figure-out for the rest of us.

For some reason I have this feeling that your anticipated scenario reads like what used to be called "books for boys" back in the day when people knew who Capt. Mayne Reade was.

You've got a real arrogant smart-assed, know-it-all attitude about yourself, WH. In every post I ever read of yours, you are snide and rip into people instead of just trying to have a conversation. Why don't you try to be constructive instead of being such a dickhead all the time?

And by the way, his name was Thomas Mayne Reid, know-it-all.

[Dave Pendleton]

Umm, what is SHTF? There is some S Hing TF in Japan right now. Rifles seem to be low on the list of things they are finding useful.

Maybe that's because they have strict gun control in Japan and the citizens are not allowed to own firearms. That's pretty effing easy to figure-out for the rest of us.

For some reason I have this feeling that your anticipated scenario reads like what used to be called "books for boys" back in the day when people knew who Capt. Mayne Reade was.

You've got a real arrogant smart-assed, know-it-all attitude about yourself, WH. In every post I ever read of yours, you are snide and rip into people instead of just trying to have a conversation. Why don't you try to be constructive instead of being such a dickhead all the time?

And by the way, his name was Thomas Mayne Reid, know-it-all.

Sounds to me like someone is trying to justify the money they spent on N95 Air Masks and potassium iodide.

And, I got the Mayne Reid reference right away. I've been around a while...

[mrokern]

If you think you will need a ton of ammo for self-defense, you are living with the assumption that you would live through a firefight sustained enough to require lots of ammo.

If you think you can "bunker down" in the burbs, keep in mind a couple of monkeys could burn you out without taking a single casualty.

If you think you are going to be welcome "in the country" even though you know nobody out there, well, good luck to you.

This is why I'm glad my in-laws are farmers, and that I've made friends with a large percentage of their neighbors.

A situation requiring a sustained battle would mean I'm either in way over my head, or would see me showing elbows and feet moving away very quickly.

[farmerj]

considering the crap that is on the highways, by-ways and railroads in this country, having a respiratory isn't such a dumb idea. Having been slammed with a lung full of anhydrous ammonia is not pretty. And that stuff is rather common. Surprising there haven't been more accidents with the stuff. (just an example of a rather common and popular chemical)