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Re: Best SHTF rifle

Postby White Horseradish on Sun Mar 20, 2011 12:29 pm

goalie wrote:50 miles isn't all that far to walk. Justa say'n


For many people it is. I doubt I could swing that right now. And carrying a rifle isn't something many people do on a regular basis.

A couple of years ago I ran into a guy at a sci-fi convention dressed as a WWII GI complete with a fake M1 the size and weight of a real one. He only lasted one day with it. Next year he had stripes and a 1911. :)
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Re: Best SHTF rifle

Postby 2beer on Sun Mar 20, 2011 12:37 pm

White Horseradish wrote:
goalie wrote:50 miles isn't all that far to walk. Justa say'n


For many people it is. I doubt I could swing that right now. And carrying a rifle isn't something many people do on a regular basis.

A couple of years ago I ran into a guy at a sci-fi convention dressed as a WWII GI complete with a fake M1 the size and weight of a real one. He only lasted one day with it. Next year he had stripes and a 1911. :)


the weak will die, the rest of is will survive. maybe your guy at the sci-fi shindig had too much couch time. I enjoy sitting on the couch, but if one wants to truly be effective their body needs to be in as good of shape as their gear.
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Re: Best SHTF rifle

Postby mnblaster on Sun Mar 20, 2011 2:53 pm

the only reason I chimed in on the "50 Mile" thing was to point out how rediculous this benchmark would be for the average joe. I run a couple full and half marathons every year during the summer and walk across fields in heavy clothes with snow shoes carrying a rifle (Rem 700 SPS Tactical) when hunting coyotes in the winter. I am very aware of the effects 13.1 and 26.2 miles let alone 50. A five mile hump with only the rifle would challege most of the internet arm chair warriors.

SO........after all this......M4 carbine :D
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Re: Best SHTF rifle

Postby Cadet on Sun Mar 20, 2011 4:10 pm

My names henry so Ive had my eye on one of these since I first saw the catalog. its my baby. I finally Got it for my confirmation 2 years ago , I have it in .22
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Ive put 2500 rounds through it easily, never failed me.
the tubular magazine rods orange spring tip did break, and I called Henry and they overnited it to me.
(I do understand customer service probably wont be around when SHTF :) )
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Re: Best SHTF rifle

Postby Flip on Sun Mar 20, 2011 5:24 pm

2beer wrote:
White Horseradish wrote:
goalie wrote:50 miles isn't all that far to walk. Justa say'n


For many people it is. I doubt I could swing that right now. And carrying a rifle isn't something many people do on a regular basis.

A couple of years ago I ran into a guy at a sci-fi convention dressed as a WWII GI complete with a fake M1 the size and weight of a real one. He only lasted one day with it. Next year he had stripes and a 1911. :)


the weak will die, the rest of is will survive. maybe your guy at the sci-fi shindig had too much couch time. I enjoy sitting on the couch, but if one wants to truly be effective their body needs to be in as good of shape as their gear.



What? This guy will survive E-V-E-R-Y-T-H-I-N-G .... 50 miles is nothing ... Questions is, What is his rifle for the SHTF situation?


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Re: Best SHTF rifle

Postby mrokern on Sun Mar 20, 2011 5:37 pm

Flip wrote:
What? This guy will survive E-V-E-R-Y-T-H-I-N-G .... 50 miles is nothing ... Questions is, What is his rifle for the SHTF situation?


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Re: Best SHTF rifle

Postby 2beer on Sun Mar 20, 2011 6:04 pm

mrokern wrote:
Flip wrote:
What? This guy will survive E-V-E-R-Y-T-H-I-N-G .... 50 miles is nothing ... Questions is, What is his rifle for the SHTF situation?


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The BAK-47, of course.
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if that BAK-47 comes with mayo consider it sold. I would have me some bacon sandwiches. mmm mmm mmm good. I wont survive **** I just like stirring the pot. :D
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Re: Best SHTF rifle

Postby Cadet on Sun Mar 20, 2011 6:09 pm

on the topic of survival, teenage boys like me to 30 year old boys (and girls) are probably the best suited for survival. not internet boys either. I fancy myself in pretty good shape, playin 3 sports and all :P
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Re: Best SHTF rifle

Postby mnglocker on Sun Mar 20, 2011 6:12 pm

Cadet wrote:on the topic of survival, teenage boys like me to 30 year old boys (and girls) are probably the best suited for survival. not internet boys either. I fancy myself in pretty good shape, playin 3 sports and all :P


Experience will chalk it up kid. It's not all about how far you can run, a smart one doesn't need to run, but will rather just hide in plain sight.
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Re: Best SHTF rifle

Postby Cadet on Sun Mar 20, 2011 6:15 pm

true, and im a firm believer in old man strength. and experience is important I know, dip **** pop culture kids my age will get **** up immediatley, but if your an Eagle Scout like me you might have a shot :P. I also spend my summers sleeping in the dirt in a tent as a counselour at cubscout camp, totally adding to my survival quotient because of the outdoors experience it adds...
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Re: Best SHTF rifle

Postby Philo on Sun Mar 20, 2011 6:25 pm

I'd pick an AR-15 M4 carbine chambered for .223 and 5.56.
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Re: Best SHTF rifle

Postby goalie on Sun Mar 20, 2011 9:09 pm

Cadet wrote:true, and im a firm believer in old man strength. and experience is important I know, dip **** pop culture kids my age will get ****** up immediatley, but if your an Eagle Scout like me you might have a shot :P. I also spend my summers sleeping in the dirt in a tent as a counselour at cubscout camp, totally adding to my survival quotient because of the outdoors experience it adds...


Any Eagle Scout is far from the normal kid these days. Very far.

And yes, experience counts, but there is a reason that the guys running around with rifles in bad places are in good shape. Actually, there are a LOT of reasons.
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Re: Best SHTF rifle

Postby White Horseradish on Mon Mar 21, 2011 12:16 am

goalie wrote:And yes, experience counts, but there is a reason that the guys running around with rifles in bad places are in good shape. Actually, there are a LOT of reasons.
If they weren't in good shape, they wouldn't be running. :P Of course all that running around is exercise in itself. It's a vicious circle, I tell ya... :mrgreen:
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Re: Best SHTF rifle

Postby VikesFan1 on Fri Mar 25, 2011 11:57 am

They have a point.
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Re: Best SHTF rifle

Postby John S. on Fri Mar 25, 2011 1:26 pm

Cadet wrote:My names henry so Ive had my eye on one of these since I first saw the catalog. its my baby. I finally Got it for my confirmation 2 years ago , I have it in .22
HenryGoldenBoy22.jpg

Ive put 2500 rounds through it easily, never failed me.
the tubular magazine rods orange spring tip did break, and I called Henry and they overnited it to me.
(I do understand customer service probably wont be around when SHTF :) )



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