Putting a scope on a mosin nagant? Mount found, need scope!

[Calamity 223]

For your reading enjoyment. http://www.mnguntalk.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=26607&p=306055

ETA, Mounting a scope to the rear sight makes for a really really long eye relief. Thats why I chose the method in the link.

I also chose this method- i didnt use any of the mounting hardware or drill or tap that was included. ive heard bad things about them. my dad is a machinist so we had access to a few tools to make more precise holes. but all in all the whole scope mount is really easy to attach, and as for the new "bent" bolt handle we screwed it on as the kit suggests then we also took the tig welder to it to make sure it stays for good. took less than an hour and over four hundred shots later still holding zero just fine. Love my mosin

[gyrfalcon]

what kind of accuracy can be had with a Mosin? I've always been kinda curious

I like this video:

[ijosef]

A lot of guys with videos on the tube of you are using the 3/8" dovetail mounts. You can tap off the rear site entirely, leaving a spot on which one can use 3/8" high profile scope rings. I've never tried it (although that's probably the route I'd take if/when I scope my Mosin), but it is reported to be much better than the ones that mount on the rear site itself.

[bigd55433]

The only sight I liked was the $100 Rock Solid mount that I couldn't justify spending that on a $79 Fleet Farm special.
As for an AK sight rail not working... ha well look at my receiver real close and tell me it worked horribly before this mount It really depends upon how your gun is set up! It used to have a polish underfolder stock on it as well but it was uncomfortable and actually didn't feel hot with no padding on it.

I got the cheapest weaver rail kit I could for mine $8 off Amazon for 3 pieces.
I took off the rear sight of the gun.
I cut the front "hump" off the sight or buldge.
I used a piece of 1/4" flat stock in place of the flip up site and plug welded it in the center replacing the site(fit perfectly in the machined out part nice and tight).
I cut it off 1/4" past where I cut off the hump drilled and tapped that part for my weaver rail.
Re-installed the site it backwards which offsets it to the rear.
I then mounted my scope, used a bore sighter and aligned where the rear hole of the weaver should be, marked it.
drilled the receiver of the Mosin and mounted the rear part.
Lock-tited both set screws and so far so good.


I cut the bolt and extended it with a $2 stainless bolt from the hardware store.
After welding it on with a standard wire feed, no special wire...
ground it
sanded with 320
polished with "brown" coarse polishing compound on the wheel.


Sorry about the picts. Cheeeezy camera phone since I have a weak image shack account and it wouldnt let me upload some quality ones.

[ChuckJ]

I used the mount shown in post #6 in this thread.
http://www.gunandgame.com/forums/mosin- ... e-kit.html
With a $70 Ncstar scope I tipped the rifle over by accident and it bounced on the scope a couple of times,
didn't even really change the zero.
Getting the rear sight off to get to the dovetails was a task, I couldn't get the pins out so I very carefully
sliced the sight with a thin cutoff wheel.

[yuppiejr]

Other than usually being limited to 2x, 4x or 2-7x variable magnification the scout/extended eye relief/pistol scopes have their own advantages... I find them a lot faster to get on target than irons or a closer mounted scope since it's a lot harder to get lost in the glass, long eye relief means 0 chance of scope eye for newer shooters, and the dovetail under the rear sight is actually a pretty solid mounting point that doesn't require drilling holes in the receiver or modifying the bolt. Forward mounting allows you to use stripper clips for faster reloads which an over-bolt scope will not.

[kowalzekc]

Has anyone put a scope on a mosin nagant? If so, did you do a offest mount the scope to avoid the bolt handle or did you get the bolt handle mounted at an angle?

For your reading enjoyment. http://www.mnguntalk.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=26607&p=306055

ETA, Mounting a scope to the rear sight makes for a really really long eye relief. Thats why I chose the method in the link.

I would really like to do something like this. I fully except that I am spit shining a turd, but this a turd that is cheap to shoot. My only issue is that I do not have all the equiptment to do such a thing.

[kowalzekc]

what kind of accuracy can be had with a Mosin? I've always been kinda curious

With my '26 Hex Izzy I can religiously bang an 8" gong at 100 yds with irons.... And I'm not that good of a shot. This leads me to believe that if you have a good specimin, and a decent scope you could easily expect Minute of deer accuracy. Most folks claim 2-3" groups at 100 yds with a good Mosin.

I spoke with my buddy I bought it from and he was shooting 1"-2" groups with spam can ammo. He is in his 60s and shakes like a bear trying to crap a pine cone (yes that was a direct quote). I guess I bought a good shooter. Now time to start ordering part. Strad I will be over analizing the crap out of your project and probably doing near the same thing. Any pointers would be welcomed....Just wondering Strad, what happened to the muzzle break you two where going to design?

[Stradawhovious]

Strad I will be over analizing the crap out of your project and probably doing near the same thing. Any pointers would be welcomed....Just wondering Strad, what happened to the muzzle break you two where going to design?

The muzzle brake we made was kind of engineered on the fly, but works great. It is extremely effecient.

The only pointers I have are have enough beer, a large vocabulary of four letter words, and have fun.

Also get scope that can withstand the recoil of a Mosin with a brake. apparentl the last couple I used can't.

[kowalzekc]

Strad I will be over analizing the crap out of your project and probably doing near the same thing. Any pointers would be welcomed....Just wondering Strad, what happened to the muzzle break you two where going to design?

The muzzle brake we made was kind of engineered on the fly, but works great. It is extremely effecient.

The only pointers I have are have enough beer, a large vocabulary of four letter words, and have fun.

Also get scope that can withstand the recoil of a Mosin with a brake. apparentl the last couple I used can't.

I already have plenty, so I am good there. Would you recomend finding someone with machining equiptment or can this be done with a drill press and the other aformetioned items? I was thinking of using the scope I currently have on my AR15 (I am upgrading that one) It is a cernterpoint cheapy.

[Stradawhovious]

A machine sho for sure if you are making a brake. For the scope mount, all shippy and I used was a vice, a drill press and a 12 pack of PBR.

[kowalzekc]

A machine sho for sure if you are making a brake. For the scope mount, all shippy and I used was a vice, a drill press and a 12 pack of PBR.

Dangnabit! Now I know I will fail....I only low-brow Premium Grain belt....That PBR stuff is for the snobs! Thanks Strad, I will have more questions for you in the near future. A muzzle break would be nice and might happen eventually but I:
1. have no clue what I am doing
2. Not high on the priority list
3. Don't have access to a machine shop

Could you post what your looks like now with everything done?

[Stradawhovious]

Could you post what your looks like now with everything done?

I will try to get some pics up tomorrow.

[redaudi]

is it tomorrow yet?

[Stradawhovious]

is it tomorrow yet?

Not quite yet.