.223ar-15?bore one-piece bore cleaning rod

[GunGoogler]

Accidentally bryant my cleaning rod. Anyone know where I can buy a new one in the twin cities tomorrow? Any favorite brands?

[GunGoogler]

Accidentally bryant my cleaning rod. Anyone know where I can buy a new one in the twin cities tomorrow? Any favorite brands?

Please forgive the spelling -- typing on my iPad sucks.

[BBeckwith]

make a run down to Frontiersman they should have one

[Anokamnman]

I like my bore snake. Works great

[Erud]

I like my bore snake. Works great

Use of a bore scope will change your mind about the bore snake. They are ok for a quick knocking out of major debris at the range, but they do not really remove much carbon at all much less copper. If you only ever use the snake to clean, your barrel is getting a lot of crap built up in it.

OP: Gunstop has an assortment of one-piece rods in stock including Dewey coated rods and Tipton Carbon fiber rods. I prefer carbon fiber but either will work fine. Make sure you get a good bore guide to use with it. For an AR, the milled Delrin ones are cheap and tough to beat. JP makes a really nice one out of milled aluminum that is probably the most over-built piece of cleaning gear on the planet. Stay away from the adjustable models unless you can't find anything else.

Good luck,
Erik

[GunGoogler]

Thanks gents. I had a Dewey and liked it a lot...I'd get another one without hurting my feelings.

I'll wade into the two areas of controversy you both touched on. For boresnakes, I LOVE them for my pistols. Really wouldn't use anything else unless I'm in the "mood" to give my babies the deep clean. However, I won't touch my AR with those. I've had two friends with .223 and .22lr barrels get the appropriate sized boresnake completely lodged in their barrels and we had to use a leverage system to get them out and I"m not sure if it screwed up the barrel end or rifling, but it scared me away from them on that sized barrel. I still use it with a smile on my .40 calibers though.

My buddy also has a bore guide, which I admit is pretty slick because of how it manages the sludge that comes out. He swears up and down that one should never ever clean an AR without one for fear of damaging the bore, which I can certainly respect. That said, the platform has been around for a long time, but the bore guide is a relatively new invention and I don't recall hearing/seeing evidence of screwed up barrels because we never used to use bore guides. So...what is the necessity of those things?

Thanks again for the assist -- I knew better than to go to Wal-Mart and I was pretty sure Fleet Farm near me wouldn't have them either. I've been looking for a reason to go to Frontiersman and to Gunstop. Now I have one. I will blame (thank) you both if I end up with another firearm today because I went there while weak.

[gyrfalcon]

My buddy also has a bore guide, which I admit is pretty slick because of how it manages the sludge that comes out. He swears up and down that one should never ever clean an AR without one for fear of damaging the bore, which I can certainly respect. That said, the platform has been around for a long time, but the bore guide is a relatively new invention and I don't recall hearing/seeing evidence of screwed up barrels because we never used to use bore guides. So...what is the necessity of those things?

It's another gizmo in my opinion... it's nice to have but otherwise useless if you're at least semi-careful cleaning.

[Erud]

I wouldn't say a bore guide is absolutely essential, but it is definitely nice to have. Keeps all of the solvents and crud out of your receiver and chamber and keeps the rod aligned down the center of the bore. A coated or carbon rod should not scratch your barrel or anything like that, but you might be surprised at how easy it is to shave carbon or pieces of the coating off on any sharp-ish edges if the rod flexes - for instance if you are pushing a very tight patch. The bore guide will support the rod at the chamber(where the scraping generally occurs) and the brush or jag supports it at the end leaving a lot less room to flex. Stuff you won't necessarily notice without a scope but it is still there and does not help accuracy. You can certainly get by without one, but with all of the money you have into your rifle, what's another $20 to clean it properly?

[GunGoogler]

I wouldn't say a bore guide is absolutely essential, but it is definitely nice to have. Keeps all of the solvents and crud out of your receiver and chamber and keeps the rod aligned down the center of the bore. A coated or carbon rod should not scratch your barrel or anything like that, but you might be surprised at how easy it is to shave carbon or pieces of the coating off on any sharp-ish edges if the rod flexes - for instance if you are pushing a very tight patch. The bore guide will support the rod at the chamber(where the scraping generally occurs) and the brush or jag supports it at the end leaving a lot less room to flex. Stuff you won't necessarily notice without a scope but it is still there and does not help accuracy. You can certainly get by without one, but with all of the money you have into your rifle, what's another $20 to clean it properly?

Excellent point on the small price for safety. Do you recommend a specific bore guide?

[Erud]

Any of the guides made from Delrin should work fine and they are all pretty much the same - just find one that looks like this:

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/599467 ... -remington

I haven't used that particular brand but I have one that is basically identical for 6mm and it works well. There really isn't much to screw up on one as long as the dimensions are correct, it's just a delrin tube with a hole through it. John probably has something like this at Gunstop. Like I mentioned earlier, the JP guide is sweet, but pretty expensive at $40 or so. Beautifully machined anodized aluminum. I think they commissioned a team of NASA engineers to design it.

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/115057 ... -remington

[LarryFlew]

When using rod drop it through from the receiver end and pull it through so you can never mess up the crown. Boresnake wise I even use them on my 17HMR and never had one get stuck yet. I have 2 for my 5.56, one used with copper solvent and one for regular cleaning.

[Tromix-Saiga-12]

It's a little late, but we have these available:

https://www.deweyrods.com/cart/index.ph ... duct_id=70
https://www.deweyrods.com/cart/index.ph ... duct_id=70

PM me if anyone is interested.

[GunGoogler]

I swung into Frontiersman, but they didn't have a bore guide for the .223/5.56, nor did they have the rod I wanted. If I can clear out a little early today, I'll head over to Gunstop. As I said, I hope to have one in my hand today so I can clean it this afternoon and shoot.

[Holland&Holland]

I swung into Frontiersman, but they didn't have a bore guide for the .223/5.56, nor did they have the rod I wanted. If I can clear out a little early today, I'll head over to Gunstop. As I said, I hope to have one in my hand today so I can clean it this afternoon and shoot.

If you want to find it in stock and in a store Cabela's will be your best bet. Not your best price but your best bet.

[GunGoogler]

I swung into Frontiersman, but they didn't have a bore guide for the .223/5.56, nor did they have the rod I wanted. If I can clear out a little early today, I'll head over to Gunstop. As I said, I hope to have one in my hand today so I can clean it this afternoon and shoot.

If you want to find it in stock and in a store Cabela's will be your best bet. Not your best price but your best bet.

Ugh. Thanks for the tip, I'll save myself the trip. I don't want it bad enough to go to Cabela's. I can't stand that place. I get this visceral, deep-rooted rage whenever I step foot in the place. The only other time I feel it is when I have to go to the grocery store on the day of or before a huge holiday or when edging prior to painting a wall. HULK. SMASH.