Rem BDL in 7 rem mag-help me reduce the recoil a little.

[kowalzekc]

I just got my hands on one tonight, shot 10 rounds and was extremely impressed! The accuracy was spot on and the recoil was very manageable. I honestly thing the cartridge in the love of my life! Now alls I need are some loading dyes, a recoil pad, and what ever loads you gents recommend for everything from 110 grain to 180 grain, both in hard hitting calipers to lower recoil.

[Anokamnman]

You are a better man than i. I had a remington 7mm mag. Damn, the recoil was bad. Sold it.

[grousemaster]

You are a better man than i. I had a remington 7mm mag. Damn, the recoil was bad. Sold it.

same here...

[cobb]

You are a better man than i. I had a remington 7mm mag. Damn, the recoil was bad. Sold it.

same here...

So that is why all you guys hunt deer with .223's.

I really like the 7mm mag for a deer cartridge, especially out west. But then there are those in Idaho that are a fan of a .243 for long range deer, I will keep my flat shooting 7mm that still hits with authority at western ranges. Still like my .35 Whelen for a northern Minnesota cartridge when hunting deer, does it up close and has proven itself more than once across a field or down the clearing of a power line in northern Minnesota and Wisconsin.

[grousemaster]

You are a better man than i. I had a remington 7mm mag. Damn, the recoil was bad. Sold it.

same here...

So that is why all you guys hunt deer with .223's.

I really like the 7mm mag for a deer cartridge, especially out west. But then there are those in Idaho that are a fan of a .243 for long range deer, I will keep my flat shooting 7mm that still hits with authority at western ranges. Still like my .35 Whelen for a northern Minnesota cartridge when hunting deer, does it up close and has proven itself more than once across a field or down the clearing of a power line in northern Minnesota and Wisconsin.

I like the cartridge, don't get me wrong....even for a Dakota hunter it would be great...just not worth the recoil/cost of ammo for the woods hunting I do.

[OldmanFCSA]

Factories load the 7mmRM with faster clean burning powders that create a sharp vicious recoil pulse.

Reloading the 7mmRM using slower burning powders under 160-175 quality projectiles lenghtens the recoil pulse in effect lessening the punch to the shoulder and give advantage of better accuracy and increased velocity.

I like to use H870, but it is no longer available as I hear.

[Anokamnman]

Easy tiger... I dont hunt with .223. I have a few rifles to choose from. Mosin in 45-70, 30-30, .243 (for the wife) and 6.8 spc. Had a 7mm mag. It was fun to shoot. But the recoil was excessive especially when back then I was sitting on tree branches on public land. Lol. That adds up to a bad outcome. And I am a, big guy.

[kowalzekc]

Yeah a buddy of mine is a gun smith and said to prevent ruining meat, get a heavy projectile and load it at about 50-75% of max load. Like I said, the recoil really didnt get me. I did 10 rounds and felt it, but not like a 870 with 3 1/4. I. An already tell you all I am looking forward to shooting it again.

[Pred]

I use a 7mm Rem Mag in northwestern Minnesota. Best way to prevent excessive meat damage is to shoot them broadside. But ya I know that's not always possible. I use a Nosler 140 gr Ballistic Tip and RL 19. Very accurate in my Ruger M77. But I wouldn't attempt a Texas heart shot with that bullet. Even though we have some pretty big open areas up there my longest shot has been roughly 100 yards. My biggest deer ever was shot at 25 yards. The 7mm works just as well up close as it does a long ways off. It's a great all-around deer cartridge.

[kowalzekc]

So today I decided to shoot 25 rounds through the BDL and I am paying for it. As I don't find the recoil horrible, I would like to knock it down some. Other than a better recoil pad, does anyone have advice on how to reduce the recoil? Muzzle brake? Mercury recoil reducer? Drill out the stock and add lead?

[45Badger]

I'm a recoil wimp, so my "go to" deer gun is .308 (bracketed by .243 and .30-06 for extreme situations ). Funniest deer hunting story I have been party to came when a buddy shot his first deer with a 7mm mag. Davin is 6'5" (and 275 at the time) so recoil was a non-issue for him. Three (Davin, Mike, and me) of us were still hunting about 400 yards apart through a large parcel of hardwoods and farmland, and he was on the right. There was 1 inch of fresh snow on the ground. Davin was walking the edge of a pasture and a deer wandered out of the woods, angling toward him about 200 yards in front of him. He sat down and watched the deer nibbling along. When the deer turned broadside to him, he shot it with his 7mm cannon, loaded with Winchester Fail Safe.

At the shot, Mike and I wandered over to see what Davin had bagged. When we got there, Davin was grinning over his first deer, a nice 8 pointer. Mike and I asked for the story and began our forensic analysis of the scene. The deer was hit perfectly through both lungs. Entry wound was on it's left side and it was on its right side. Behind the deer was a PERFECT triangle of blood and itty-bitty pieces of lung tissue, deep red at the deer, petering out evenly to a pink mist on the snow about 30 feet behind the deer. The blood lines on the side were so straight it looked like a chalk line had been snapped. We were impressed at the vacuum created by the high velocity round that seemed to have sucked and the blood and lungs out of the deer. When we rolled it over, we all did a double take and Mike exclaimed, "Holy SXXX, you blew it's liver out!". There was a rock covered with blood-soaked moss that looked exactly like a deer liver. We can deny it all we want, but I know we all thought the same thing for a long 5 seconds

The interesting thing was the exit wound was only about an inch in diameter (bullet went between a couple ribs on the way in and it only hit a rib on exit). A heck of a lot of blood and tissue got sucked out that hole.

[Pinnacle]

35 Whelen is a WICKED hard hitter at moderate ranges... 220 Grainers going 2600 is enought to kill ANYTHING ANYWHERE..

BTW - 7mm RM is not for me either - too much recoil and I just do not love recoil. I hunt with a 270 or a 6.5x55mm

[rugersol]

So today I decided to shoot 25 rounds through the BDL and I am paying for it.

#1 reason used 7mm Rem Mag rifles are plentiful!

My first-ever rifle (bought if fer deer ) was a 7mm Rem Mag ... but I got lucky! ... it came with the BOSS!

Frankly ... anymore ... I can't imagine owning a rifle I don't reload for! ... ya can get a set of dies around $40 ... press for that 'er less ... use steel wool to clean the brass ... use the Lee dippers ... ya should be able to keep yer entire set-up under $100! ... hang on ... I know I did this before! ...

"rifle-only" (all else, needed for "pistol" calibers, as well as "rifle")

$8 Hornady One Shot Case Lube 5-1/2 oz Aerosol (make sure to get plenty near the "head", and let dry for a few minutes)
$32 Lyman Power Chamfer and Deburring Tool Set (for use with 1/4 hex cordless drill)
$6 Lee Case Trimmer Cutter and Lock Stud
$5 Lee Case Length Gage .223 (per caliber, .223, for example)
$28 Lee Pacesetter Rifle Three-Die Set (per caliber)

As with the rifle dies (above), every set of Lee pistol dies comes with a shell-holder, a "dipper", and a sheet of "load-data" (specifying various powders, bullet-weights, and velocities thereof, when using the enclosed "dipper").

press kit (includes the "ram-prime" ... at which, ya got no reason to otherwise purchase the "Lee Hand Prime" and its proprietary shell-holders which are NOT the same as the one which otherwise comes with Lee dies) ...

$40


As mentioned, so ya don't gotta "re-set" each die, every time, and as the Lee die rings (which otherwise come with the dies) don't lock to the dies, ya'll probly wanna pick up replacement locking die rings ...

$16 (per 6 rings)


At this point, I could go into detail as to how ya need to set yer dies 'n what-not ... but then ya might be tempted to not get yer own reloading manual ... and that's simply not appropriate! :dont: Get the book, and read it (it's a thick book ... but a lotta them pages are jest "recipes" fer loading various cartridges ... which, if they ain't the cartridge yer reloading, ya can ignore ) ...

$20


Ya'll also need to stock some 000 steel wool, to clean the fired cases (never run a dirty case into a die!)

Ya might otherwise need to get a dial caliper ($27). Frankly, once yer die's "set", and ya got a good locking ring on it, so long as ya always use the same bullets, ya should never need to mess with it, again. That said, it's a good idea, whenever ya load yer first of 'nother 50rd 'er so, compare it against a factory load, to make sure the ring didn't come loose, 'er the die didn't otherwise back out of the press/bushing.

By using the Lee "dippers" (again, that come with the dies ... MAKE SURE ya note which dies use which dippers, as ya accumulate more sets), ya don't really need a reloading scale ($30 ... +/- 0.2gr ... avoid "hot" loads) ... but as ya continue with the hobby, such a thing is imminent.

At some point, ya'll realize ya screwed up, and ya got some "bad loads". Without a bullet puller ($19), ya can jest use a vise-grip (on the bullet) and work it outta the case (to save the case) ... and dump the powder, toss the bullet, and start over.


Here's a video about the "Lee Breech Lock Hand Press" ...



Here's a good video on using the "Lee Ram Prime" ...

... ok, maybe over $100 ... forgot 'bout the Lyman power kit ... worth every penny, though!

Anyhow, with 7mm Rem Mag, ya'll make that up in no time!

As I've posted elsewhere, "start" loads of 4831 or 4350 should get ya where ya wanna be! (NEVER load less than 10% of published "maximum" ... NEVER load less than the published "start" load)

Otherwise ... ya ... a brake works purdy good, too!

[kowalzekc]

It looks like a muzzle brake install will run just under $200 installed. For that price I could get this: http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=1540 ... ZZLE-BRAKE

Or I could do a mercury recoil reducer and decent recoil pad and come out cheaper. If anyone has used/drilled out and installed a mercury recoil reducer in there stock, let me know what you think.

[rugersol]

It looks like a muzzle brake install will run just under $200 installed. For that price I could get this: http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=1540 ... ZZLE-BRAKE

I only meant I was lucky with the BOSS, in that it was a brake ... I wouldn't be overly concerned about being able to adjust it!

Or I could do a mercury recoil reducer and decent recoil pad and come out cheaper. If anyone has used/drilled out and installed a mercury recoil reducer in there stock, let me know what you think.

I bought one ... I didn't hafta drill out the stock ... it already had a 7/8th hole 'er such ... I didn't think it did much ... other than it was remarkably heavy, for its size ... for comparison, I took it out and otherwise poured #8 shot in ... seemed about as heavy ... and about as much/little recoil!

Now that I think of it, I wonder where it might be?!

FWIW, if ya don't already have the scope ya want for the gun, ya could go with something closer to 24oz than 12oz ... that'd get ya 3/4 lbs! ... throw some high Warne (steel) rings on there, and that'd bump it up, too! ... steel one-piece picatinny mount, too!

'Course, even w/o all that stuff, if it's anything like mine, it's not a gun that's fun to lug around for too long! ... so I'd still go for the handloads or the brake!