First AR-15 Build Chronicled

Discussion of rifles, shotguns, and muzzleloaders

First AR-15 Build Chronicled

Postby DoxaPar on Wed Apr 03, 2013 8:26 am

I'm planning on using this thread to chronicle my first AR15 build, get recommendations, tips, etc in hopes of providing some benefit for folks (like me) who are building their first AR.

For the benefit of future readers I'll try to note "gotchas" I encountered along the way and maybe even document the building process via video. I've found that there are a lot of different theories on what are the best practices. Hopefully this thread will assist other MNguntalk readers down the road in clearing up some of those questions.

I realize that a lot of folks have done this before, so it won't be anything new for you, which is great since you'll be able to provide some parts recommendation, tips, etc if you're interested in that kinda thing.

Thanks in advance for any warnings and recommendations you can provide!

EDIT: Actually, two of us may be doing this project so some additional information may be useful.

I'm intending to use my rifle for 3-gun. As a result, any recommendations that fit this use would be great.

My friend is hoping to build a long-range rifle. So recommendations that fit that purpose would also be very helpful.

Thanks!
Last edited by DoxaPar on Wed Apr 03, 2013 8:37 am, edited 1 time in total.
User avatar
DoxaPar
 
Posts: 656 [View]
Joined: Tue Feb 05, 2013 10:46 am
Location: Minneapolis

Re: First AR-15 Build Chronicled

Postby DoxaPar on Wed Apr 03, 2013 8:34 am

SELECTING A STRIPPED LOWER

The first part I'm hoping to buy is my stripped lower. In looking at options they end up appearing to be all the same at first glance. What constitutes a "good" lower receiver? Are there any brands I should be avoiding?

Right now, I'm considering a PSA stripped lower for $119. My hope right now is to build a .223 AR. Do any particular lowers offer better / worse choices for different calibers?

http://palmettostatearmory.com/index.ph ... lower.html

GETTING THE TOOLS

Here is what I take I need (and what I'm considering):
-
Vise

EDIT: Upper Vise - http://www.amazon.com/Aluminum-Upper-Re ... vise+block

- Punches

http://www.brownells.com/gunsmith-tools ... 12952.aspx
http://www.brownells.com/gunsmith-tools ... -3016.aspx
http://www.brownells.com/gunsmith-tools ... -1989.aspx

- Armorer's wrench

http://www.brownells.com/gunsmith-tools ... 41045.aspx

- Torque wrench

- Locktite

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0043E ... B0043EK14O

- Misc tools (which I already have)

Thanks in advance for any recommendations!
Last edited by DoxaPar on Wed Apr 03, 2013 10:52 am, edited 2 times in total.
User avatar
DoxaPar
 
Posts: 656 [View]
Joined: Tue Feb 05, 2013 10:46 am
Location: Minneapolis

Re: First AR-15 Build Chronicled

Postby Scratch on Wed Apr 03, 2013 8:36 am

If you dont have the parts yet, I'll give you a tip on how to practice your build, before you get them.



.....buy a Box of Lego's










On a serious note, PSA are great receivers, although IMO, their all basically the same as long as you go with a popular aluminum one. I think theyre still stamped MULTI CAL which gives you a little more flexibility (as far as paperwork goes only)

You can easily build one with just a torque wrench, armorers wrench, hammer and standard punches, and a block of wood. You don't really need the roll pin punches, or holders, or bolt catch pin punch.... I'm not even sure what that is?

If you're building your upper, you'll need an upper vise block of some sort too. If you want to save some money, you should be able to borrow some of these tools from members here too. I'd borrow them to you if you wanted to make the trip and return trip to Hudson, but that might be an inconvenience for you.
01 FFL in Hudson Wisconsin
User avatar
Scratch
 
Posts: 2169 [View]
Joined: Sat Feb 12, 2011 3:23 pm
Location: Hudson, WI

Re: First AR-15 Build Chronicled

Postby DoxaPar on Wed Apr 03, 2013 8:50 am

Thanks!

I forgot about the upper vice block! I appreciate the offer for tools. However, I have no intention of building just one of these. :-P
User avatar
DoxaPar
 
Posts: 656 [View]
Joined: Tue Feb 05, 2013 10:46 am
Location: Minneapolis

Re: First AR-15 Build Chronicled

Postby Scratch on Wed Apr 03, 2013 8:53 am

DoxaPar wrote:Thanks!

I forgot about the upper vice block! I appreciate the offer for tools. However, I have no intention of building just one of these. :-P


Yes, it's a disease.... Might as well accept the fact early.
01 FFL in Hudson Wisconsin
User avatar
Scratch
 
Posts: 2169 [View]
Joined: Sat Feb 12, 2011 3:23 pm
Location: Hudson, WI

Re: First AR-15 Build Chronicled

Postby FJ540 on Wed Apr 03, 2013 9:10 am

Scratch wrote:
DoxaPar wrote:Thanks!

I forgot about the upper vice block! I appreciate the offer for tools. However, I have no intention of building just one of these. :-P


Yes, it's a disease.... Might as well accept the fact early.


Yep, which is why you can justify buying the tools - because you're going to make good use of them when you have them. :lol:

I've actually swapped uppers from gun to gun - not the whole thing like when you take it off the lower: the upper receivers themselves. :mrgreen: Tolerance matching at it's finest. 8-)
User avatar
FJ540
 
Posts: 6836 [View]
Joined: Fri Nov 20, 2009 5:44 pm
Location: Rock Ridge

First AR-15 Build Chronicled

Postby Snowgun on Wed Apr 03, 2013 9:29 am

I am a fan of a decent set of roll pin punches, and either a roll pin starter or a small arbor press. Its pretty easy to mangle roll punches, and MANY guns and gun accessories use them, so might as well get the right tools.

Roll pins are not as stubborn as solid pins, so you dont really need an expensive starrett set of them.
Victory is reserved for those who are willing to pay its price. - Sun Tzu

The Way is in training... Do nothing which is not of value. - Miyamato Musashi

One who knows the Self puts death to death. - Upanishads
User avatar
Snowgun
Events Coordinator
 
Posts: 3368 [View]
Joined: Sun Mar 28, 2010 11:06 pm
Location: Watching my CZ Catch the Sunlight!

Re: First AR-15 Build Chronicled

Postby DoxaPar on Wed Apr 03, 2013 9:36 am

As much as I'm able, I'm hoping to purchase locally on my gear. Is there a local reseller of AR parts, accessories, etc. anyone could recommend?

Thanks!
User avatar
DoxaPar
 
Posts: 656 [View]
Joined: Tue Feb 05, 2013 10:46 am
Location: Minneapolis

Re: First AR-15 Build Chronicled

Postby Scratch on Wed Apr 03, 2013 9:49 am

DoxaPar wrote:As much as I'm able, I'm hoping to purchase locally on my gear. Is there a local reseller of AR parts, accessories, etc. anyone could recommend?

Thanks!

Element Arms in Becker speciallizes in AR's and has many bins of springs, pins etc... if you happen to lose something. They also have lots of stocks, forends etc... I'm sure there are other shops with lots of AR stuff, and probably much closer... but Element seemed to have the largest supply of teeny, tiny, miscellaneous odd parts that I've seen around here.
01 FFL in Hudson Wisconsin
User avatar
Scratch
 
Posts: 2169 [View]
Joined: Sat Feb 12, 2011 3:23 pm
Location: Hudson, WI

Re: First AR-15 Build Chronicled

Postby NMRMN on Wed Apr 03, 2013 10:09 am

DoxaPar wrote:As much as I'm able, I'm hoping to purchase locally on my gear. Is there a local reseller of AR parts, accessories, etc. anyone could recommend?

Thanks!


http://www.atomictactical.com/

nice guys too.
I will both lay me down in peace, and sleep: for thou, Lord, only makest me dwell in safety.
Member GOA | GOCRA | NRA
NMRMN
 
Posts: 1624 [View]
Joined: Fri Feb 08, 2013 10:28 pm

Re: First AR-15 Build Chronicled

Postby jdege on Wed Apr 03, 2013 10:14 am

DoxaPar wrote:I'm planning on using this thread to chronicle my first AR15 build, get recommendations, tips, etc in hopes of providing some benefit for folks (like me) who are building their first AR.

Have you thought about where you'll be posting it?

I've posted a few projects on http://www.instructables.com/
User avatar
jdege
 
Posts: 4735 [View]
Joined: Sun Jul 29, 2007 10:07 am

Re: First AR-15 Build Chronicled

Postby DoxaPar on Wed Apr 03, 2013 11:23 am

jdege wrote:
DoxaPar wrote:I'm planning on using this thread to chronicle my first AR15 build, get recommendations, tips, etc in hopes of providing some benefit for folks (like me) who are building their first AR.

Have you thought about where you'll be posting it?

I've posted a few projects on http://www.instructables.com/


Not yet. I don't want the "project" to become the difficult part of this and I don't know much about that site. But, I'll check it out!
User avatar
DoxaPar
 
Posts: 656 [View]
Joined: Tue Feb 05, 2013 10:46 am
Location: Minneapolis

Re: First AR-15 Build Chronicled

Postby DoxaPar on Wed Apr 03, 2013 11:24 am

I'm curious as to why some stipped lowers cost $100 and some $400?

What the large delta if the aluminum types are the same? Is a $350 lower really worthwhile?

The main reason I'm interested is because I really like the SWS lower. But.. is it worth it?
User avatar
DoxaPar
 
Posts: 656 [View]
Joined: Tue Feb 05, 2013 10:46 am
Location: Minneapolis

First AR-15 Build Chronicled

Postby Erud on Wed Apr 03, 2013 12:04 pm

DoxaPar wrote:I'm curious as to why some stipped lowers cost $100 and some $400?

What the large delta if the aluminum types are the same? Is a $350 lower really worthwhile?

The main reason I'm interested is because I really like the SWS lower. But.. is it worth it?


Sometimes it's just hype, but sometimes they are better quality or have additional features raising the price. For the average shooting tasks, pretty much any standard lower will work as well as any other, so long as it is to spec.

Sometimes the extras can be worth it. For the type of shooting that I mostly do, a right-side bolt release is absolutely crucial so I am willing to pay a fair amount more for a quality lower that has that feature.
User avatar
Erud
 
Posts: 2521 [View]
Joined: Tue Jul 31, 2007 6:31 am
Location: SE Metro

Re: First AR-15 Build Chronicled

Postby cgrant26 on Wed Apr 03, 2013 12:30 pm

Last edited by cgrant26 on Wed Apr 03, 2013 12:59 pm, edited 1 time in total.
User avatar
cgrant26
 
Posts: 134 [View]
Joined: Fri Jan 11, 2013 4:43 am

Next

Return to Long Guns

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 4 guests

cron