AR Info

[Stradawhovious]

Thanks. As far as I know, they are out of lowers, and do have DPMS lower parts kits in stock for $59. This is as of this afternoon.

I think Randy at Territorial probably still has a good supply of lowers (both the 2nd Amend version and other less $$$ versions), but you might not hear back from him immediately since I think he's hunting... maybe one of the Bill's guys could chime in on what they have in stock?

They are closed until the 21st, as per their answering machine.

[Stradawhovious]

Here's another thinker on the AR's, and forgive me for , but is it fruitless to be assembling these new safe tenants now seeing as our new fearless leader elect has all but vowed to make even the posession of these firearms illegal? Or is there some unspoken (or spoken) grandfather clause that has been in place for previous bans, and/or efforts? I was 18 during the implementation of the previous ban, and wasn't paying attention. Please chime in, as I'm sure this is a legimiate concern. (it is for me anyways) JoeH seems to have some inside information on the prospects of new "regulation", It would be nice to hear from you with any additional insight

ETA I would hate to think I'm investing 1,000+ on a firearm, just to have it stripped from me to help arm Obama's private ciizen army

[JoeH]

Strad-

AFAIK, existing rifles that were legal before the ban were still legal during the ban (grandfathered if you will). The ban was on import, manufacture, and sales. A Federal gun grab is a stupid political move that I highly doubt Obama and Congress will make.

I do not have any inside info. I bought a stripped lower (has since been dropped in a duck slough and lost) from a well-known, local lower manufacturer. I'm not quoting him since I may have misunderstood what he said.

I mentioned that I wanted the lower before a potential ban. He suggested that I may need to build the rifle before the ban to be considered pre-ban or at least have the receipts to prove that I had the parts (it would be reasonable to assume that having the receipts for all the parts pre-ban and having a completed rifle equals a pre-ban rifle).

Stocking up on several lowers with the plan of building pre-ban rifles at a post-ban date may be a little iffy. This all depends, of course, on if we have another ban and what exactly that ban says.

Clear as mud?

[Stradawhovious]

Clear as mud?

Crystal.

Now to find an upper.........

[Pat]

If I had the wherewithal right now, I would buy a bare-bones upper, and add this gas piston kit: http://www.brownells.com/aspx/NS/store/ ... SION%20KIT

It was designed by a friend of mine and is being built rat 'cheer in Minnesota.

[MisterOblivious]

Building on the cheap? Maybe, I guess it depends on who you are. I'm simply trying to avoid building a POS, while altogether assembling this firearm before Obama takes office and grows his horns. Some of us simply don't have thousands of dollars lying around to build a gun, and I'm making due with what I have, and can afford.

Thanks for the advice on the stock though, any help is appreciated.

I apologize for miscontruing your comment about building the firearm in $100 increments to mean you were building on the cheap.

... JoeH seems to have some inside information on the prospects of new "regulation", It would be nice to hear from you with any additional insight
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Strad-
I mentioned that I wanted the lower before a potential ban. He suggested that I may need to build the rifle before the ban to be considered pre-ban or at least have the receipts to prove that I had the parts (it would be reasonable to assume that having the receipts for all the parts pre-ban and having a completed rifle equals a pre-ban rifle).

Stocking up on several lowers with the plan of building pre-ban rifles at a post-ban date may be a little iffy. This all depends, of course, on if we have another ban and what exactly that ban says.

Clear as mud?

I removed this bit from my previous post as it was already reaching "wall of text" proportions. If you'd like to take a look at the current assault weapons ban in congress, head over to http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c110:H.R.6257:
Worthy of note are it's four cosponsors, http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d110:HR06257:@@@P, all of whom are Republican.

The previous reauthorization attempt was made by Dianne Feinstein (D CA) as an amendment to the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act, but was voted down 8-90 in the Senate. The bill protects manufacturers and dealers from being held liable for crimes commited with firearms they sold and was only allowed to pass after Senator Feinstein's amendment was removed.

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=s109-397

One thing is certainly clear, if the ban goes into effect, you can be sure you'll see the hoarders at gunshows and gunbroker claiming to be selling "legal pre-ban" lowers. There's a clause in the current AWB bill that will require all weapons classified as "assaualt weapons" by the bill be marked with the date of manufacture as part of it's serial number. That should stop the worst of those bozos from buying new lowers and selling them as pre-ban.

[Stradawhovious]

Ok, now to revisit an old thread. Let's say that hypothetically someone bought an AR, and is going to break it in over the next few weeks.......hypothetically What would be the best course? Follow the recommended clean after every shot for 10 shots, then after every ten for a hundred, then after every 25 etc. etc. etc (or something to that extent anyways) or is there a preferred method with theses particular rifles?

[westberg]

Ok, now to revisit an old thread. Let's say that hypothetically someone bought an AR, and is going to break it in over the next few weeks.......hypothetically What would be the best course? Follow the recommended clean after every shot for 10 shots, then after every ten for a hundred, then after every 25 etc. etc. etc (or something to that extent anyways) or is there a preferred method with theses particular rifles?

What is the barrel? I don't do the break in on the "BATTLE RIFLES", but I will on the long range rifle when it comes in. But what I do gets you exactly what you paid for it. Let's wait for the Marines to wake up.

[Stradawhovious]

Ok, now to revisit an old thread. Let's say that hypothetically someone bought an AR, and is going to break it in over the next few weeks.......hypothetically What would be the best course? Follow the recommended clean after every shot for 10 shots, then after every ten for a hundred, then after every 25 etc. etc. etc (or something to that extent anyways) or is there a preferred method with theses particular rifles?

What is the barrel? I don't do the break in on the "BATTLE RIFLES", but I will on the long range rifle when it comes in. But what I do gets you exactly what you paid for it. Let's wait for the Marines to wake up.

5.56/.223; 16"; 1:9" twist........... hypothetically.

[farmerj]

Ok, now to revisit an old thread. Let's say that hypothetically someone bought an AR, and is going to break it in over the next few weeks.......hypothetically What would be the best course? Follow the recommended clean after every shot for 10 shots, then after every ten for a hundred, then after every 25 etc. etc. etc (or something to that extent anyways) or is there a preferred method with theses particular rifles?

Load up about ten 30 round magazines.


And then bump fire em all right after the other.

[Stradawhovious]

Load up about ten 30 round magazines.


And then bump fire em all right after the other.

[westberg]

Ok, now to revisit an old thread. Let's say that hypothetically someone bought an AR, and is going to break it in over the next few weeks.......hypothetically What would be the best course? Follow the recommended clean after every shot for 10 shots, then after every ten for a hundred, then after every 25 etc. etc. etc (or something to that extent anyways) or is there a preferred method with theses particular rifles?

What is the barrel? I don't do the break in on the "BATTLE RIFLES", but I will on the long range rifle when it comes in. But what I do gets you exactly what you paid for it. Let's wait for the Marines to wake up.

5.56/.223; 16"; 1:9" twist........... hypothetically.

When I bought my JP-15 rifle, they did give me a small container of J-B Bore Cleaning Compound to use during break-in, fire 2 to 3 rounds then clean and then clean 1 to 2 round up to ten, then good to go. This is not considered a battle rifle barrel though. I would have a really hard time sitting there shooting and cleaning every round. The investment in time I'm sure is worth. This will be interesting to see the opinions to this question.

[mnglocker]

Ok, now to revisit an old thread. Let's say that hypothetically someone bought an AR, and is going to break it in over the next few weeks.......hypothetically What would be the best course? Follow the recommended clean after every shot for 10 shots, then after every ten for a hundred, then after every 25 etc. etc. etc (or something to that extent anyways) or is there a preferred method with theses particular rifles?

Get a bore snake and do what the litte desctruction manual tells you. It will make for an effing tack driver.

I did exactly as the book said for my 20" A2 H-Bar that I recently lost in a boating accident. It would keep MOA with cheap'n crappy ultra-max reman .223.

[Stradawhovious]

If we are expecting this to turn into a discussion all in it's own, maybe the Mods would want to split it off into it's own animal. Just a thought, I would hate to Hijack someone elses thread (yeah, Like I don't do it on a daily basis )

[hammAR]

Load up about ten 30 round magazines.


And then bump fire em all right after the other.

...put the selector to the third position and forget that bump-fire crap.....and add 10 30 rounders to the count.......

ya gotta get the barrel hot enough to light your cigar on for them to break in correctly.......