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M1 vs 7.62 vs ar15

Postby AshFan on Sat Jan 29, 2011 9:25 pm

I browsed about a bit and found nothing on this topic. I have been led to believe that the M1 is superior to both the ar15 and the 7.62... True? I value your input, Thank you!
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Re: M1 vs 7.62 vs ar15

Postby farmerj on Sat Jan 29, 2011 9:44 pm

what are you basing this off of?

M1Garand VS???? VS AR15?

Are you considering the "7.62" the M14(M1A)?
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Re: M1 vs 7.62 vs ar15

Postby RobD on Sat Jan 29, 2011 9:46 pm

farmerj wrote:what are you basing this off of?

M1Garand VS???? VS AR15?

Are you considering the "7.62" the M14(M1A)?


lol
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Re: M1 vs 7.62 vs ar15

Postby farmerj on Sat Jan 29, 2011 9:47 pm

comparing apples / oranges to pears.
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Re: M1 vs 7.62 vs ar15

Postby RobD on Sat Jan 29, 2011 9:51 pm

farmerj wrote:comparing apples / oranges to pears.


What's your favorite vehicle. A truck or a ford?
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Re: M1 vs 7.62 vs ar15

Postby shackleford on Sat Jan 29, 2011 9:53 pm

Are you asking if the M1 platform is better than the 7.62 caliber vs the ar 15 rifle? Kind of like asking if the Ford pickup is better than the duramax diesel vs the dodge ram.

If you are debating calibers, there is a lot out there about 7.62 vs 5.56, and a fair amount about the .30/30.06. It all gets back to the question of what are you looking to do with the rifle and at what range. As far as a true battle rifle, the 7.62 is the only choice. For most people, the 5.56/223 wins in terms of practicality. What is your budget, and what are your goals with the rifle?

If you are interested in a caliber discussion, there are a million sites out there that cater to that sort of thing. Check out http://www.theboxotruth.com if you want to waste a few hours, it is very entertaining. Welcome to the site, btw...
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Re: M1 vs 7.62 vs ar15

Postby farmerj on Sat Jan 29, 2011 9:54 pm

RobD wrote:
farmerj wrote:comparing apples / oranges to pears.


What's your favorite vehicle. A truck or a ford?



A truck to me has 18 wheels and 13 gears.
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Re: M1 vs 7.62 vs ar15

Postby hammAR on Sat Jan 29, 2011 10:07 pm

You guys shouldn't be so hard, as this is his first post................
maybe he was asking for differences for a 7.62 in an M1 and an AR15...........
of course a 7.62 could be an AK too....
I have no effen idea what he was asking
but I do know that he didn't start off with Concealed Carry.................so good first post....... :cheers:
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Re: M1 vs 7.62 vs ar15

Postby Holland&Holland on Sat Jan 29, 2011 10:29 pm

Personaly I feel all are inferior to a 9.3x74R in a drilling under 2 12 gauge barrels. That way you have all your options open.
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Re: M1 vs 7.62 vs ar15

Postby tim on Sat Jan 29, 2011 10:34 pm

I am personally a ford guy but currently drive a dodge, must say the new GMCs are a nice truck though and I would be interested in a trade?
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Re: M1 vs 7.62 vs ar15

Postby farmerj on Sat Jan 29, 2011 10:43 pm

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Re: M1 vs 7.62 vs ar15

Postby Gecko, Extra Crispy on Sat Jan 29, 2011 11:26 pm

farmerj wrote:what are you basing this off of?

M1Garand VS???? VS AR15?

Are you considering the "7.62" the M14(M1A)?


M1 Abrams mayhapsably?
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Re: M1 vs 7.62 vs ar15

Postby LarryFlew on Sat Jan 29, 2011 11:36 pm

Cruel day today. M1 and AR15 are both platforms or types of rifles where 7.62 is a caliber which you could get in an AR platform if you wanted to. Typical platforms for your 7.62 might be Ak, SKS and others.

That is why the apples (M1) oranges (AR) and trucks (7.62). Yeh I know I embelished even more.
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Re: M1 vs 7.62 vs ar15

Postby White Horseradish on Sun Jan 30, 2011 12:07 am

hammAR wrote:of course a 7.62 could be an AK too....
Or a Mosin. Or a Tokarev . Or a Nagant revolver. Or a Chinese Type 64. Or a Czech Vzor 52 rifle. Or a Remchesterby in 7.62 Jonson. Or a PSS silent pistol.
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Re: M1 vs 7.62 vs ar15

Postby UnaStamus on Sun Jan 30, 2011 12:58 am

It all depends on what you want it for. The M1A and AR-10/LR308/SR25 are both in the Battle Rifle category, whereas the AR15 is in the "assault rifle" category. Different uses for different weapons.
If you want a down and dirty battle rifle, the M1A is a reliable and durable weapon that can take a pounding and keep going. The down side is that M1As are heavy and sometimes awkward. If you want an M1A for precision rifle use know this: the M1A is a money pit. You will spend loads of money for incremental gains in accuracy. The best M1As that Springfield Armory puts out can reliably hold around 1MOA, but not much better than that (at least not consistently). In order to get better accuracy, and to do so consistently, you will have to spend lots of money on gas system modification and tuning and various tweaks to the rifle. Smith Enterprises (SEI) puts out their M14SE Crazy Horse rifle, which has been able to get sub-MOA accuracy. If you want your rifle built to that specification, expect to pay a premium of several thousand dollars just for the upgrades and work. How much depends on what you have done.

In contrast, you can buy an AR-10/LR/SR platform completely built for $2k-$3k, and it will pull 0.5-0.75 MOA right out of the box. You can build an AR-10/LR/SR for less than that, and still get consistent 0.5 MOA accuracy. Where the issue comes in is for reliability. Many are reliable, but only to a certain extent. They must be kept cleaner than the M1As and during shooting, must be better lubricated and watched after. There are many reports from frontline soldiers shooting the M110s and having significant malfunction issues with them. In contrast, the LMT LM308MWS and POF-USA P308 platforms have been shown to be very reliable and durable, while still maintaining exceptional accuracy.
For a battle rifle platform, the AR-10/LR/SR can be much easier to control, manipulate and reload. The weapon will feel better in the hand, and it will work better in CQB and short range engagements due to more modularity and compact abilities.
Additionally, AR/LR/SR rifles are much easier to service when it's time for routine maintenance or replacement of damaged or worn out parts.

The AR15 platform is an entirely different ball of wax. It has different capabilities. In terms of tactical/combat/CQB use, it is much more capable due to lower recoil, easier manipulation and less weight. The round is also much cheaper to buy. For precision shooting, using a Mk262 type load with 77gr SMKs in a capable platform can yield 0.5 MOA accuracy out to ranges of 900yds. The 5.56 round is very capable for accuracy, but it gets batted around like a kite in wind, so there's a trade-off.

Essentially, you will have to decide what use you want the weapon for and tailor it to your needs.
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