LongRange wrote:
Well actually the purpose is not just for the cool factor, I enjoy shooting a bit further than most folks and am looking for a better long range lethal caliber than the current offered rounds. I am stubborn and not willing to accept that the best is a 33 ,40,50cal round that drops like a lead fart.
Currently in comparison to the .338 Lapua( 2969fps - 4893ftlbs- @ muzzle), which at 1000 yrds and a 250gr round has specs of 1738fps and 1678ftlbs of energy.. and bullet drop of 260", while this round(4190fps- 4705ftlbs @ muzzle) at 1000 yrds has specs of 2743fps and 2005 ft lbs of energy from a 120gr round ... and bullet drop of 128". At further distances the gap is even greater. The 338 Lapua is.. er WAS considered the best sniper round from 600-1500m, although loads from the 30-378 have beaten it in many areas. I think with further testing this round could turn out to be a very solid contender for tops in the long range field.
In the spirit of legitimate debate I’d have to disagree with your logic, anyone who shoots at longer ranges knows ballistic drop over a distance is in fact the easiest variable to work with, in fact its not much of a variable with modern range finders, mobile ballistic apps and accurate chronographs. In long range shooting the true variable is the wind as its almost impossible to peg correctly over the entire distance the bullet travels, that’s where the true skill comes in and that’s where the highest chance of error can occur, that’s why a bullet with a great BC is an absolute must when looking for long range accuracy. While I agree you got a flat shooter it’s a dog in the wind, at least with the load posted above (I’ll even spot you the 4200 FPS you are hoping for) . Your load would have about 66.5” of wind drift with a 10mph full value cross wind, and I come up with 159” of drop from a 100yd zero, contrast that to my 338LM load (300gr SMK @ 2750 FPS) which only has 35.5” of wind drift with the same cross wind. At 1500 yards that spread is even worse, your load would have 186” of wind drift where as the 338 would be 87.5”, energy again goes to the 338 Lapua by a landslide, 346 ft lbs for your load, 1492 ft lbs for my 338 load.
Your numbers are not jiving with the 4 programs I have access too. I get much much less than what you are claiming, using a 130gr Barnes TTSX in .277 cal (.392 G1 BC) and your 4200 FPS numbers I’m coming up with about 900 ft lbs of energy @ 1000, not the 2005 you are claiming, also I come up with around 160” of drop @ 1000, not the 128” you have, something is not right, am I missing something? I confirmed these numbers using JBM, Bullet Flight, Ballistic FTE and the Sierra software. My 338 LM has 2330 ft lbs of energy @ 1000. No disrespect but again it appears you are playing fast and loose with your data, what gives man, we are all gun guys here, no need to try and shine up a turd, Sam or JJ or anyone else run these numbers and let me know what you come up with, I want to know if I’m loosing it or not.