Hmac wrote:Sure. Just drive the pins out, drive the gas tube pin out, and slide the FSB off (it's harder than it sounds...they are taper pins mounting it to the barrel and usually take some serious whacking, and a special jig helps). Note that a) you will have visible holes in your barrel where the FSB was pinned and b) that FSB also acts as the gas block, so you'll have to put on a new gas block.
What most people do, and is actually simpler, is just cut the upper part of the FSB off and use its base as the gas block with your new rail covering it up - should be low profile enough that the old rail will slip off fine and the new one slip on. Then mount your flip-up sight. There are a number of articles and videos on how to do this.
Hmac wrote:Sure. Just drive the pins out, drive the gas tube pin out, and slide the FSB off (it's harder than it sounds...they are taper pins mounting it to the barrel and usually take some serious whacking, and a special jig helps). Note that a) you will have visible holes in your barrel where the FSB was pinned and b) that FSB also acts as the gas block, so you'll have to put on a new gas block.
What most people do, and is actually simpler, is just cut the upper part of the FSB off and use its base as the gas block with your new rail covering it up - should be low profile enough that the old rail will slip off fine and the new one slip on. Then mount your flip-up sight. There are a number of articles and videos on how to do this.
MN_Rez wrote:Nice, Thanks Y'all. I AM looking to put at least a 10" rail on so i hope that that will cover that. Any idea where to look for these videos or articles. Not finding a whole lot on youtube.
codilly wrote:On my first AR I cut the front sight post off and ground it down real smooth with scotch pads and then painted. On my build I used a low pro clamp on and some people have problems with them but I love mine so far. On both builds I covered the gas block with a rail.
Hmac wrote:codilly wrote:On my first AR I cut the front sight post off and ground it down real smooth with scotch pads and then painted. On my build I used a low pro clamp on and some people have problems with them but I love mine so far. On both builds I covered the gas block with a rail.
I wouldn't ever use a clamp-on gas block (or FSB), they have a distinct tendency to loosen. Usually the first notice of this is that the gun won't cycle once the gas ports become misaligned or it leaks too much at the barrel interface. Re-tightening it often requires removing the rail. Every rifle I've ever built has either used a BCM FSB or a VLTOR low-pro gas block, and I've sent them off to either Rainier or ADCO to get them pinned (I've heard that AR15barrels.com also does a good job). If you're building an AR yourself, note that it's usually wise to make sure the barrel nut is slid onto the barrel before pinning the gas block. Otherwise you'll just have to unpin it and remove it in order to get the barrel nut on, which can often be a PITA. So I always send the barrel nut for the particular rail system I'm using along with the barrel and gas block when I get them pinned.
There are gas blocks that use set screws - they're not any better than a clamp-on. Better yet would be to have the barrel dimpled for those set screws along with some RockSett (most barrels you buy from quality mfgrs these days are pre-dimpled), best would be to actually have the gas block pinned to the barrel (about a $25 job from a gunsmith). Note that if you're going to use set screws or a clamp-on gas block, you need to use some kind of loc-tite type compound to try to secure the screws. It has to be a high-temp compound like RockSett. Red Loc-Tite or similar won't do it - the extreme heat will loosen it after about 30 rounds. Rocksett can be a major PITA to deal with if you ever want to disassemble.
The way one secures the gas block is reflective of the reliability that one expects from the rifle. That kind of reliability being a hallmark of a quality firearm, it would be almost impossible to buy a quality AR15 that didn't come with either a pinned FSB or a pinned gas block.
codilly wrote:I'm gonna have to respectivley disagree on the part about the clamp on gas blocks coming lose. I used red Loctite and tightend the **** out of it and after 1500 rounds and the rifle smoking hot the block hasn't moved a bit and I have had zero problems at all. I have a buddy who used the same YHM clamp on block I used and is well into the 5,000 rnd mark without any issues.
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