Transporting a rifle

View · by **Punisher102** on Sat Aug 11, 2012 9:09 pm

Hey guys, Im new to the long guns and have a question I could not find while doing a a search on this site, and Google returned 2009 results.

But what are the laws for 2012 regarding transporting long guns, say to and from a range or smith?

Does it matter that I have a permit to carry?

Thanks.

View · by **Sigfan220** on Sat Aug 11, 2012 9:52 pm

Cased and UNLOADED should do it

View · by **tman** on Sun Aug 12, 2012 3:51 am

https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/?id=97B.045

97B.045 TRANSPORTATION OF FIREARMS.
Subdivision 1. Restrictions. A person may not transport a firearm in a motor vehicle unless
the firearm is:
(1) unloaded and in a gun case expressly made to contain a firearm, and the case fully
encloses the firearm by being zipped, snapped, buckled, tied, or otherwise fastened, and without
any portion of the firearm exposed;
(2) unloaded and in the closed trunk of a motor vehicle; or
(3) a handgun carried in compliance with sections 624.714 and 624.715.
Subd. 2. Exception for disabled persons. The restrictions in subdivision 1 do not apply to
a disabled person if:
(1) the person possesses a permit under section 97B.055, subdivision 3; and
(2) the firearm is not loaded in the chamber until the vehicle is stationary, or is a hinge action
firearm with the action open until the vehicle is stationary.
Subd. 3. Exceptions; hunting and shooting ranges. (a) Notwithstanding provisions to the
contrary under this chapter, a person may transport an unloaded, uncased firearm, excluding a
pistol as defined in paragraph (b), in a motor vehicle while at a shooting range, as defined under
section 87A.01, subdivision 3, where the person has received permission from the lawful owner
or possessor to discharge firearms; lawfully hunting on private or public land; or travelling to or
from a site the person intends to hunt lawfully that day or has hunted lawfully that day, unless:
(1) within Anoka, Hennepin, or Ramsey County;
(2) within the boundaries of a home rule charter or statutory city with a population of
2,500 or more;
(3) on school grounds; or
(4) otherwise restricted under section 97A.091, 97B.081, or 97B.086.
(b) For the purposes of this section, a "pistol" includes a weapon designed to be fired by
the use of a single hand and with an overall length less than 26 inches, or having a barrel or
barrels of a length less than 18 inches in the case of a shotgun or having a barrel of a length less
than 16 inches in the case of a rifle:
(1) from which may be fired or ejected one or more solid projectiles by means of a cartridge
or shell or by the action of an explosive or the igniting of flammable or explosive substances; or
(2) for which the propelling force is a spring, elastic band, carbon dioxide, air or other gas,
or vapor.
Pistol does not include a device firing or ejecting a shot measuring .18 of an inch, or less, in
diameter and commonly known as a "BB gun," a scuba gun, a stud gun or nail gun used in the
construction industry, or children's pop guns or toys.

View · by **Hmac** on Sun Aug 12, 2012 4:49 am

Punisher102 wrote:
Does it matter that I have a permit to carry?

Thanks.

Your permit is a handgun permit.

View · by **plblark** on Sun Aug 12, 2012 6:19 am

Actually, it has more to do with how the carry in a public place, transport, and carry permit laws evolved & interact than the word on the permit HMac.

Short form: Tman linked the transport stat which is the one you want. Unloaded and completely cased or unloaded and in the trunk is the simplest answer

View · by **jgalt** on Sun Aug 12, 2012 6:28 am

If you want to be absolutely sure you are legal anywhere you go, follow federal law:

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/926A

Notwithstanding any other provision of any law or any rule or regulation of a State or any political subdivision thereof, any person who is not otherwise prohibited by this chapter from transporting, shipping, or receiving a firearm shall be entitled to transport a firearm for any lawful purpose from any place where he may lawfully possess and carry such firearm to any other place where he may lawfully possess and carry such firearm if, during such transportation the firearm is unloaded, and neither the firearm nor any ammunition being transported is readily accessible or is directly accessible from the passenger compartment of such transporting vehicle: Provided, That in the case of a vehicle without a compartment separate from the driver’s compartment the firearm or ammunition shall be contained in a locked container other than the glove compartment or console.

And remember that the definition of "unloaded" above is more restrictive than the defn in MN (MN allows ammo to be in detachable mags & in the same case / container as the gun...)

If you're only talkin' about MN, then tman's link will suffice...

View · by **Punisher102** on Sun Aug 12, 2012 7:32 pm

Thanks!!

Thats what I was looking for.

View · by **bstrawse** on Mon Aug 13, 2012 7:02 am

Hmac wrote:
Punisher102 wrote:
Does it matter that I have a permit to carry?

Thanks.

Your permit is a handgun permit.

Except that you can also carry a loaded rifle or shotgun in public with it... just not transporting via a vehicle.. tman posted the correct statute above.

Bryan

View · by **falgore** on Mon Sep 17, 2012 12:03 am

I asked a LT at the police station, they also mentioned only carry to gunsmith to home, home to work, to gun range and to hunting area. unloaded and completely cased. not to do list: to take to friends to simply show it off, and any other non gun use related areas.

Not to do: Walk down the street with it in case un loaded with no gun related destination.

The not to do may be result of public ignorance regarding firearm rights and thus calling the cops, which here they must respond regardless. Many here trying to keep our city as best place to live in America. People walking around with guns cased or uncased here, to some would view this city unfriendly. Which Is load of crap and is all about ignorance and stigma.

But then with the major business center being here, that some times serves to famous and influential people (presidential and Arabian prince level caliber) They tend to be bit more paranoid. Even when they are not actually here.

View · by **Ranger01** on Mon Sep 17, 2012 2:54 am

To quote many respected people here: "never take advice from police".

View · by **goett047** on Mon Sep 17, 2012 3:22 am

Ranger01 wrote:To quote many respected people here: "never take advice from police".

This!

View · by **ex-LT** on Mon Sep 17, 2012 7:25 am

Like the others said - don't take advice from the police. Especially in this case....

The statute regarding transporting a firearm of any type in MN is as follows:

97B.045 TRANSPORTATION OF FIREARMS

Subdivision 1.Restrictions.

A person may not transport a firearm in a motor vehicle unless the firearm is:

(1) unloaded and in a gun case expressly made to contain a firearm, and the case fully encloses the firearm by being zipped, snapped, buckled, tied, or otherwise fastened, and without any portion of the firearm exposed;

(2) unloaded and in the closed trunk of a motor vehicle; or

(3) a handgun carried in compliance with sections 624.714 and 624.715.

...

The full statute can be found here

View · by **bstrawse** on Mon Sep 17, 2012 8:19 am

falgore wrote:I asked a LT at the police station, they also mentioned only carry to gunsmith to home, home to work, to gun range and to hunting area. unloaded and completely cased. not to do list: to take to friends to simply show it off, and any other non gun use related areas.

Not to do: Walk down the street with it in case un loaded with no gun related destination.

The not to do may be result of public ignorance regarding firearm rights and thus calling the cops, which here they must respond regardless. Many here trying to keep our city as best place to live in America. People walking around with guns cased or uncased here, to some would view this city unfriendly. Which Is load of crap and is all about ignorance and stigma.

But then with the major business center being here, that some times serves to famous and influential people (presidential and Arabian prince level caliber) They tend to be bit more paranoid. Even when they are not actually here.

The LT at the police station needs an education in the statute. Which agency was this?
b

View · by **ex-LT** on Mon Sep 17, 2012 12:03 pm

bstrawse wrote:
falgore wrote:I asked a LT at the police station, they also mentioned only carry to gunsmith to home, home to work, to gun range and to hunting area. unloaded and completely cased. not to do list: to take to friends to simply show it off, and any other non gun use related areas.

Not to do: Walk down the street with it in case un loaded with no gun related destination.

The not to do may be result of public ignorance regarding firearm rights and thus calling the cops, which here they must respond regardless. Many here trying to keep our city as best place to live in America. People walking around with guns cased or uncased here, to some would view this city unfriendly. Which Is load of crap and is all about ignorance and stigma.

But then with the major business center being here, that some times serves to famous and influential people (presidential and Arabian prince level caliber) They tend to be bit more paranoid. Even when they are not actually here.

The LT at the police station needs an education in the statute. Which agency was this?
b

Given the highlighted portion of the OP, I would guess Southeast MN, Olmsted County. Probably the city of Rochester.

View · by **photogpat** on Mon Sep 17, 2012 12:27 pm

ex-LT wrote:Like the others said - don't take advice from the police. Especially in this case....

The statute regarding transporting a firearm of any type in MN is as follows:

97B.045 TRANSPORTATION OF FIREARMS

Subdivision 1.Restrictions.

A person may not transport a firearm in a motor vehicle unless the firearm is:

(1) unloaded and in a gun case expressly made to contain a firearm, and the case fully encloses the firearm by being zipped, snapped, buckled, tied, or otherwise fastened, and without any portion of the firearm exposed;

(2) unloaded and in the closed trunk of a motor vehicle; or

(3) a handgun carried in compliance with sections 624.714 and 624.715.

...

The full statute can be found here

I'm sure I will be roundly chastised - but it there any case law for vehicles not equipped with a trunk (ie. SUV or hatchback)? I've been searching, but I know there are folks here much more educated than I to answer.