14.5" or 16" mid length upper?

[zero]

let me know if this has already been talked about but im trying to decide on which one to get and from where. i like the look of the 14.5" upper with the perm muzzle device but i have heard from a couple of places on the internet (and not many at that) that the 14.5 can or will choke on low power/crap ammo...and that happens to be what i love to shoot! also any good and cheap places to get the uppers would be greatly appreciated as well!

[promod1385]

let me know if this has already been talked about but im trying to decide on which one to get and from where. i like the look of the 14.5" upper with the perm muzzle device but i have heard from a couple of places on the internet (and not many at that) that the 14.5 can or will choke on low power/crap ammo...and that happens to be what i love to shoot! also any good and cheap places to get the uppers would be greatly appreciated as well!

Dont believe everything you read online. Why do they have a problem with cheap ammo? If you gun fails to run I would look at a different weight buffer to help it digest the lower powered stuff.

[kerns bbo]

My 14.5 has never had a single failure with any ammunition. It has fed many wolfs, federal, Winchester, bear, Remington, American eagle, tul, etc.

[Hmac]

I've seen people talk about cycling problems with 14.5 inch barrels with mid-length gas systems due to the decreased dwell time (compared to a 16 inch barrel), but I suspect that difference is less of a problem in a carbine-length gas system. Anyway, it's hard to imagine that such a problem couldn't be addressed with some buffer experimentation.

[zero]

hmmm i think you guys are right about the buffer weight, kinda sounds like some people fixed it with that as well. where is a good place to get a fairly inexpensive 14.5 or16? i would like to get a reasonably priced one, dont need super duper top of the line, just needs to shoot and be reliable.

[zero]

My 14.5 has never had a single failure with any ammunition. It has fed many wolfs, federal, Winchester, bear, Remington, American eagle, tul, etc.

what kind of buffer are you using? also where did you get your upper and how much?

[kerns bbo]

My 14.5 has never had a single failure with any ammunition. It has fed many wolfs, federal, Winchester, bear, Remington, American eagle, tul, etc.

what kind of buffer are you using? also where did you get your upper and how much?

H buffer with what is actually a 14.7 inch forged barrel from Palmetto State Armory, carbine length gas tube. No clue what I paid for it.

[smokintone]

hmmm i think you guys are right about the buffer weight, kinda sounds like some people fixed it with that as well. where is a good place to get a fairly inexpensive 14.5 or16? i would like to get a reasonably priced one, dont need super duper top of the line, just needs to shoot and be reliable.

Palmetto State Armory are GTG!

[zero]

ive been looking at the PSA website and they look like nice uppers! i think thats who i may go with, i think im gonna wait till they have one of their deals on the upper tho, id still like to get a good price and any little bit off helps! PSA seems to be all together pretty great, they have all the other parts i want too! and i think im going to go 16" after all, its cheaper and it sounds to be more reliable with all buffer types.

[shooter115]

Personally I would go with the 16" barrel. That way you can add an effective muzzle brake (or a suppressor if MN ever gets it's head on straight). You'll never notice that extra 1 1/2" of barrel length. YMMV

[promod1385]

I would agree with shooter115. The ability to change muzzle devices as you want would be a big bonus for me (I like compensators and most of the perm attached stuff you buy online are not compensated).

What is your intended use for the gun? If you are looking to do any varmint hunting or 3gun work you might want the extra velocity and accuracy afforded by a 16" gun.

As far as where to get one, I always tell people "buy once, cry once" I would look at a BCM upper.

FWIW - AIM Surplus sells a bunch of 14.5's the sell- http://www.aimsurplus.com/catalog.aspx? ... +Receivers

[zero]

Hahaha yea MN needs to get its head out of its ass about that! Actually thats a good point, having the option to switch it is a very nice thing. Its going to be mostly a plinker and home defense type rifle, its going on a poly lower so its gonna be nice and light. Would you say bcm is better than palamento? I noticed that bcm without bcg is the same price as a compleate palamento upper. Yea that little extra velocity sure cant hurt!

[promod1385]

I would certainly say BCM is superior equipment! They are a machine shop based out of WI, they do things to milspec (or exceeding milspec) in house. Palmetto is not a machine shop, they farm out all of there manufacturing and finishing (that is what created the problem I had with PSA and thus why I will never do business with them again).

Lots of time BCM is out of stock on stuff for extended periods of time, its due to the fact they are working on big GSA contracts. PSA on the other hand is an organization set up to sell stuff to civilians.

If you are looking for BCM stuff I would either by direct or look at: http://www.surplusammo.com/bravo-compan ... -or-ch-hg/

I like these uppers because you can select your own handguard and I would definitely recommend a BCM bolt group. I run there bolts in all of my guns and they are very reliable, there coating is awesome and every BCG is test fired before it leaves the factory.

[zero]

Awesome thank you for the input. But now i just saw something else....huldra arms gas piston upper, and they have a midlength version too

[Thunderjohn]

You might check with Globeflyer - one of our own here on MNGT.