What's a good 5.45x39 rifle?

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What's a good 5.45x39 rifle?

Postby brauchma on Sat May 25, 2013 7:53 pm

I see a lot of the spam cans around and I think I want to get a rifle to shoot with. I know about the corrosive nature and dirtiness. I just like to shoot. :)
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Re: What's a good 5.45x39 rifle?

Postby americos on Sat May 25, 2013 9:12 pm

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Re: What's a good 5.45x39 rifle?

Postby LumberZach on Sun May 26, 2013 5:27 pm

The AK platform seems to work pretty well with it. I would stay away from AR's in the caliber. Most AK's work pretty well.
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Re: What's a good 5.45x39 rifle?

Postby Dave Timm on Sun May 26, 2013 5:30 pm

Either a Saiga AK74 for the AK side or if you want an AR we make a piston driven 545 rifle or upper. I know im biased but our 545 ARs run like a top if your mags are good. There are videos if you're interested. I couldn't decide so I built an AK and have one of our upper :D 545 is a fun round.
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Re: What's a good 5.45x39 rifle?

Postby norman426 on Mon May 27, 2013 7:36 am

I love my huldra 5.45. Put about 1k rounds through it, Only had one bad primer in the spam can
I wish I could find another one, since I can't ill prolly buy an ak74 on gunbroker
It's a great round
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Re: What's a good 5.45x39 rifle?

Postby Hmac on Mon May 27, 2013 7:40 am

Dave-HuldraArms wrote:Either a Saiga AK74 for the AK side or if you want an AR we make a piston driven 545 rifle or upper. I know im biased but our 545 ARs run like a top if your mags are good. There are videos if you're interested. I couldn't decide so I built an AK and have one of our upper :D 545 is a fun round.


IIRC, Dave has over 4000 rounds through one of their Huldras without cleaning.
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Re: What's a good 5.45x39 rifle?

Postby JustPlainT on Fri May 31, 2013 2:34 pm

Hmac wrote:
Dave-HuldraArms wrote:Either a Saiga AK74 for the AK side or if you want an AR we make a piston driven 545 rifle or upper. I know im biased but our 545 ARs run like a top if your mags are good. There are videos if you're interested. I couldn't decide so I built an AK and have one of our upper :D 545 is a fun round.


IIRC, Dave has over 4000 rounds through one of their Huldras without cleaning.


Isn't the bulk of 5.45 available corrosive? That sounds like a bad idea to me.
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Re: What's a good 5.45x39 rifle?

Postby hunterfreakhd on Fri May 31, 2013 4:07 pm

JustPlainT wrote:
Hmac wrote:
Dave-HuldraArms wrote:Either a Saiga AK74 for the AK side or if you want an AR we make a piston driven 545 rifle or upper. I know im biased but our 545 ARs run like a top if your mags are good. There are videos if you're interested. I couldn't decide so I built an AK and have one of our upper :D 545 is a fun round.


IIRC, Dave has over 4000 rounds through one of their Huldras without cleaning.


Isn't the bulk of 5.45 available corrosive? That sounds like a bad idea to me.

he might have gotten the rifle for free. :mrgreen:
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Re: What's a good 5.45x39 rifle?

Postby minnhawk on Sat Jun 01, 2013 10:15 am

Corrosive isn't as bad as it sounds. Just about every small arms round fired by US Forces in WWII was corrosive, yet many of those small arms are still around and quite serviceable. Clean with soap and water......
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Re: What's a good 5.45x39 rifle?

Postby Dave Timm on Sun Jun 02, 2013 8:41 am

JustPlainT wrote:
Hmac wrote:
Dave-HuldraArms wrote:Either a Saiga AK74 for the AK side or if you want an AR we make a piston driven 545 rifle or upper. I know im biased but our 545 ARs run like a top if your mags are good. There are videos if you're interested. I couldn't decide so I built an AK and have one of our upper :D 545 is a fun round.


IIRC, Dave has over 4000 rounds through one of their Huldras without cleaning.


Isn't the bulk of 5.45 available corrosive? That sounds like a bad idea to me.


Correct, the bulk Russian surplus is corrosive and was the whole point of the test. We wanted to push our rifle to the limits and see when and how long it would take before stoppages and to know how our finishes and products held up to real use. Much like every auto company runs engines with out oil etc we wanted some real performance of the rifle so we got one, degreased it of any lube and started shooting. We also documented the journey via youtube through a series of videos. Long story short, no we don't recommend this, we recommend using good quality and amounts of lubrication as well as cleaning when shooting corrosive ammunition. We got just over 4800 rounds, no cleaning or lube, before our first stoppages which were caused by carbon and build up in the bolt carrier causing the firing pin to drag. We did a complete strip, detail inspection and clean and found no signs of corrosion or rust. We then shot it some more and have since put several more thousand rounds through it. We are waiting for the barrel to burn out and see how long that takes.

For guys that have our rifles or uppers I recomend cleaning the bore and upper with a quick spray of solvent, bore snake, and remove and wipe down the piston components. Its super easy and fast and takes less then 5 minutes when I shoot my personal 545, when I shoot our beater then I don't care :D .

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Re: What's a good 5.45x39 rifle?

Postby LumberZach on Sun Jun 02, 2013 9:59 am

Correct, the bulk Russian surplus is corrosive and was the whole point of the test. We wanted to push our rifle to the limits and see when and how long it would take before stoppages and to know how our finishes and products held up to real use. Much like every auto company runs engines with out oil etc we wanted some real performance of the rifle so we got one, degreased it of any lube and started shooting. We also documented the journey via youtube through a series of videos. Long story short, no we don't recommend this, we recommend using good quality and amounts of lubrication as well as cleaning when shooting corrosive ammunition. We got just over 4800 rounds, no cleaning or lube, before our first stoppages which were caused by carbon and build up in the bolt carrier causing the firing pin to drag. We did a complete strip, detail inspection and clean and found no signs of corrosion or rust. We then shot it some more and have since put several more thousand rounds through it. We are waiting for the barrel to burn out and see how long that takes.

For guys that have our rifles or uppers I recomend cleaning the bore and upper with a quick spray of solvent, bore snake, and remove and wipe down the piston components. Its super easy and fast and takes less then 5 minutes when I shoot my personal 545, when I shoot our beater then I don't care :D .

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Re: What's a good 5.45x39 rifle?

Postby Erik_Pakieser on Sun Jun 02, 2013 9:59 am

I've got a Century (built on a NoDak reciever) Tantal and I absolutely love it.
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Re: What's a good 5.45x39 rifle?

Postby kollector03 on Wed Jun 12, 2013 4:50 pm

I have two Tantals (selling one of them on the trader), a FIME group SGL31-94 (awesome rifle) and two AR based rifles (DI 16" S&W upper and a Huldra 16" piston upper). I stacked the 5.45 deep as its a potent round and very affordable. All my rifles have been extremely reliable and accuracy has been surprisingly good on the Ak based designs.

My favorite has to be my Tantal and the SGL31-94. Quick handling and nil recoil.

Super fun rifles to shoot.
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